Which Canon DSLR’s can do RAW with Magic Lantern? [Updated November 11th ’13]

November 11th, 2013
Which Canon DSLR's can do RAW with Magic Lantern? [Updated November 11th '13]

Canon-EOS-7DIt is an interesting time for filmmakers since Magic Lantern enabled the RAW functionality for Canon DSLR’s. Due to its fast card interface the Canon EOS 5D mark III is the most popular RAW shooting DSLR reaching resolutions of 1080p and beyond (5D3 RAW guide).
But other Canon DSLR’s can shoot RAW too! Even the non-video capable Canon EOS 50D released in 2008 is now a RAW monster. Incredible.

In May we learned that the outdated photo camera Canon EOS 50D was hacked as well (they’re even working on the 40D now) and turned into a movie making machine. The video below shows a video recorded in 1280×960. The creator used an anamorphic lens that squeezes the image which could later be desqueezed into a stunning 2560×960 pixel video. For a camera that actually doesn’t shoot video at all that’s quite a braintwisting number. For a real beating though I suggest you download the source video.



It’s an amazing development that is going forward extremely fast. The RAW module used in these videos is in an Alpha stage which means that there are still stability and other issues which are being smoothed out. For most filmmakers these issues, like pixel glitches, usability (requires learning) is something they gladly accept for the stunning footage they get in return. Just make sure you double-check your footage after shooting.

And here’s a list of all the cameras that can currently do RAW. Keep in mind that most of these don’t reach 1080p resolution (yet) and require a fast CF card to achieve the write speeds required.
The Komputerbay 1000x cards are cheap, but they seem work most of the time. If you receive a bad card send it back and get a new one.
The Lexar 1000x Cards are most expensive, but seem to work most reliable.
The Transcend 1000x Cards are newer, reliable, priced in between, but some compatibility issues have been reported with some firmwares.

Note: If you would like to install the RAW modules on your listed camera and have questions please consult the Magic Lantern forum as linked.

For the latest 5D mark III install guide please read here.

Canon EOS 5D mark II – Some people can currently achieve 1880×[email protected] 1880×[email protected] or 1600×[email protected] fps. LINK
—> Sample Video shot on Sandisk 32GB CF
install guide for 5D2

Canon EOS 50D – Seen people achieve 1592×720 1584×[email protected] fps. LINK
—> Sample Video shot on Sandisk Extreme Pro 600x CF
install guide for 50D

Canon EOS 60DApparently 960×540 1584×[email protected] fps is currently the maximum. LINK
—> Sample Video.
install guide for 60D

Canon EOS 7D – Can continuosly shoot 1728×[email protected] LINK
—> Sample Video shot on Komputerbay 1000x card
install guide for 7D

Canon EOS 550D (T2i) – Can still only achieve 960×540 max. LINK
—> Sample Video
install guide for 550D

Canon EOS 600D (T3i) – Some people can currently achieve 960×540. LINK
—> Sample Video shot on Sandisk Extreme Pro SD
install guide for 600D

Canon EOS 650D (T4i)Does raw but not usable yet, framedrops, noise problems. Can now do 1280×[email protected] fps. LINK
install guide for 650D

Canon EOS 700D (T5i) – Can currently do 1280×[email protected] fps. LINK
install guide video in Spanish for 700D

Canon EOS 6D – Can currently do 1360×600 1840×[email protected] fps, but apparently not continuosly. LINK
—> Sample Video.

Canon EOS M – The little one can currently do 1280×[email protected] fps. LINK
—> Sample Video.

Canon EOS 1100D not ideal: LINK

It seems like mostly the newer models can achieve the RAW functionality and the ones with CF card controllers are said to be faster as the SD controller is slower. The newest model, the Canon EOS 70D has not seen Magic Lantern yet.

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Chukwuka “ChukySmiles” Ndife
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August 14th, 2014

What of 70d? Is it out yet?

giovanni
giovanni
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December 21st, 2013

the 60d is capable of half hd 960×540 continuosly

Davide Pannullo
Davide Pannullo
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November 24th, 2013

How do you guys can upscale the footage to 2,5K resolution?

John Ros
John Ros
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November 12th, 2013

70D?

Sebastian Wöber
Sebastian Wöber
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November 12th, 2013
Reply to  John Ros

There’s no Magic Lantern for the 70D yet.

LAGUITE
LAGUITE
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November 11th, 2013

RAW video on NIKONNNNNN please !

francisco erroz
francisco erroz
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October 28th, 2013

where i can find a good tutorial of how install de the software Magic Lantern on a 6d

stacy green
stacy green
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August 23rd, 2013

You can shoot 1600×900 on 600D and 60D if you lower the frame rate at 7 FPS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7gHyLwVQrM

Oscar 'Nebe' Abad
Oscar 'Nebe' Abad
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July 13th, 2013

Right now, 07/13/2013, I can record some chunks of 800frames without drop at 1152×460 2,35-1 with a Sandisk 95Mb/s 16Gb in my Canon 550D/T2i with the last alpha nightly build, about 300~500Mb per shot. Awesome.
Here is the last daily automatic build:
http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/nightly/

Have phun!

5DMKII
5DMKII
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June 15th, 2013

Is it possible to shoot FullHD Raw with a 5D MKII or the CF controller is too slow?

7d user
7d user
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June 13th, 2013

Oh god. Most likely YUV422 on the 7D is possible, very excited. 7D definately have potential to output RAW as its a CF mounter with liveview and enough CPU power! Is there anyway to contribute? I’ve work in image processing and ported image buffers to YUV422 many, many times before.

Peoplemerge
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June 17th, 2013
Reply to  7d user

Of course! Start with http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum

abbey
abbey
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June 3rd, 2013

Pls is there any hope that 5d mark 2 can shoot up to 2k or atleast 1080p raw @25fps

Ellis Vener
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June 3rd, 2013

With still work when shooting .cr2 (or Nikon NEF for that matter) , picture styles, color space setting, white balance, contast and sharpening settings, etc. do not have an effect on the raw data BUT they do effect two things to be aware of : the preview you see in live view and the in camera generated histogram. what you see in Live view and the in camera created histogram are created by an in camera processed JPEG which does utilize picture style (etc.) settings.

Whether this holds also true for video work I don’t know .

keith mann
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May 31st, 2013

Can anyone suggest the in-camera settings to shoot RAW? Does style (standard, neutral, etc) or the sharpen level even matter in Raw? Seems to me that if RAW is direct from sensor, the only thing that matters is the”raw” exposure.

togg
togg
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May 31st, 2013
Reply to  keith mann

same question here!

JR
JR
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June 2nd, 2013
Reply to  keith mann

Picture profiles wont effect the RAW video.

Kevin
Kevin
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May 30th, 2013

Hey all,

This is fantastic news. I have a t3i refurb coming in this week. Little bummed the res is so low on that right now, hoping they’ll get up to 1080p eventually. I am guessing if they can’t it has to do with the slower processor speed on the lower end cameras.

Two questions. I have a Shuttle 2 that I use with HDMI out.. I assume HDMI out would never be RAW and my shuttle 2 would need to record in RAW anyway.. so I am guessing this only works with the on-board SD card?

Second, what format is it recording in? Red Raw? CinemaDNG Raw? Being a Windows/Adobe guy, I am wondering if I’ll need to do any transcoding to work with the video or not?

Ok.. a third.. what SD card would I need on the T3i to get maximum resolution (when it eventually works)? I have seen 800x cards, not cheap though, but worth it if this is truly 14-bit RAW footage, especially if we can get 1080P! That would render my Shuttle 2 useless!

Can’t wait to see comparisons of the Mk3 with BM 4K and 2.5K. That would be amazing if they could pull > 1080P off of the MK3 in 14-bit RAW.

JR
JR
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June 2nd, 2013
Reply to  Kevin

The SD is slower than CF cards which is going to be the thing that limits RAW on T3i etc. The RAW rec produces dng which you can then process to make a video file. All your questions and questions you have yet to ask can be found over on the ML forum. Read up before posting questions. Someone else has most likely already asked / been answered. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5520.0

T
T
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May 29th, 2013

I love shooting in raw. The motion is more fluid, the colors are natural and lifelike, and plus the complicated workflow makes me feel special :)

JR
JR
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June 2nd, 2013
Reply to  T

“and plus the complicated workflow makes me feel special” hahaha

I look forward to also feeling special when my 50d arrives, hopefully tomorrow. ;)

robinsonbros
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May 29th, 2013

T2i is working now at 960×408.

henry
henry
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May 29th, 2013
Reply to  robinsonbros

where are you getting your info? I’d like to be updated with this kind of news

Sebastian Wöber
Sebastian Wöber
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May 29th, 2013
Reply to  robinsonbros

Added

Dav
Dav
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May 29th, 2013

Any chance we’ll get RAW on a 5D1 ??

PKent
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May 30th, 2013
Reply to  Dav

No, the way this works is by pulling images off the liveview buffers and the original 5D didn’t have those.

José Eduardo
José Eduardo
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May 29th, 2013

I am very sure that the raw 7d will be in full mode

PKent
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May 30th, 2013
Reply to  José Eduardo

I wouldn’t get my hopes up, they still can’t access the Main processor so they settled for the Slave and that even took years to figure out; these raw images can only be accessed by the main proc. I love the 7D but it’s not a good magic lantern candidate

Tiago
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May 29th, 2013

Good work !!! You said that “…even working on the 40D now…” can you post the link for the 40D ?

Best regards,

Sebastian Wöber
Sebastian Wöber
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May 29th, 2013
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willy
willy
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May 29th, 2013

Thanks for this recap ! This is exactly what i searched for to clear my minds into this thing .
I think the next stage is to see if the others cams can do 1080p in 12/10 bits instead of 14bits . If this is possible then the little FF 6D or the 5D II will be my weapons of choice for a budget buyer .

Anri
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May 29th, 2013

Why 7D can’t do raw??

David
David
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May 29th, 2013
Reply to  Anri

The 7D has the potential for RAW, the issue is accessing the RAW stream that is on the other processor, ML runs on the slave processor. If they figure out how to access it there will still be two issues, the write limitation of UDMA6 and it is still a line skipper.

PKent
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May 30th, 2013
Reply to  David

Actually the 7D supports UDMA7 like the 5D3 but it is fat32 (4GB file limit) unlike the 5D3.

JR
JR
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June 2nd, 2013
Reply to  PKent

I think I read that the 7D can use UMDA7 but will run at UMDA6 speeds. Not 100% on that. Could be because 7D write speed maxes out just below 53mb/sec. Currently RAW video on 7D is a long way off at best. There is talk of YUV422 however, which would be much better than h.264. :)

hop
hop
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May 29th, 2013

No 60d? :(

Sebastian Wöber
Sebastian Wöber
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May 29th, 2013
Reply to  hop

I updated the post, there seems to be some 60D development too.

hi
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October 25th, 2013

Does Canon EOS 700D support RAW too? (does it work?)

Member
March 5th, 2016
Reply to  hi

Unfortunately the 700D/T5i is the only Canon model that suffers from “focus pixels” that are burnt onto the image when you shoot in RAW or MLV (RAW 2.0). It has to do with the way the camera focusing system was designed. And there is no real easy solution if you have a Mac NLE system. So disappointed because once you I got a fast SD UHS card I was able to record at a decent resolution for about 20 seconds and got some really good Dynamic Range images.

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