AtomOS 10 Supercharges Your Ninja V Monitor/Recorder

November 13th, 2018
AtomOS 10 Supercharges Your Ninja V Monitor/Recorder

Now that the new Atomos Ninja V Monitor/Recorder is available for just over a month, the company pushed hard to deliver a huge upgrade for their devices underlying operating system: AtomOS 10 offers some very handy improvements for the new 5″ Ninja V. Let’s have a quick look, shall we?

Atom OS 10

newly designed Atom OS 10

If you’re new to the Atomos Ninja V monitor/recorder, catch up here and here.

AtomOS 10 (10.01 to be exact) comes as a free-to-download piece of software. Once you’ve installed it, you’ll be rewarded with a familiar, yet very different user interface. Since the Ninja V is all about HDR recording and monitoring, Atomos chose to make the different UI elements less distracting and therefore reduced their saturation quite a bit. It’s all about the actual image you’re monitoring, really. But there’s more, obviously.

AtomOS 10

Apart from the less saturated UI elements (a nice touch, much more pleasing to the eye I think), Atomos also changed the arrangement of these elements and even reworked the whole menu system in order to make it easier and more accessible. If you’re updating from an earlier version of AtomOS, it’s pretty clear that this new version is really about cleaning up the user interface. It’s also about keeping the actual image in view at all times, without having many overlaying pages and menus.

Atom OS 10

The entire user interface has been carefully reworked to cater for the smaller 5″ screen of the Atomos Ninja V.

Improved Features

Once you’re done setting up the unit for your given shot you can easily get rid of all the overlays by just tapping the screen. That’s fine but this will also disable all the crucial information you probably want to keep an eye on, such as audio meters or a HDR waveform. That’s where the newly designed shooting page comes in. Once you’re done with your monitor settings and tap “MON” again, a discrete status bar is the only thing that appears beneath your current image. That status bar includes useful information such as battery status, recording status, an HDR waveform, audio meters and access to all the well-known REC, PLAY, MON and EDIT settings.

One of the major changes AtomOS 10 addresses is the way you select the type of input signal coming from your camera. This setting used to be part of the Monitor page of the menu. Now it can be found on the Input page and that is -at least to me- a much more appropriate place for this particular setting. Jeromy Young, CEO of Atomos, has put together a in-depth walk-through of all the new Atom OS 10 features, make sure to sit back and watch it here:

HDR – Slider vs. Buttons

Another major change addresses the HDR slider of previous versions of Atom OS. Actually, as Jeromy Young states in the video, at the time they developed their first HDR capable monitors/recorders, there simply was no industry standard which determined how to deal with different HDR modes for different delivery scenarios. But now there are and that’s the reason the company decided to replace the HDR slider with 4 different buttons, each reflecting a dedicated standard:

  • Native -> just the plain, unprocessed Log image from your given camera is being displayed
  • Rec.709 -> a basic LOG to Rec.709 curve is being applied to the image (a.k.a. SDR – Standard Dynamic Range)
  • HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) -> a HDR standard which is also compatible SDR displays, a good compromise so to say
  • PQ (Perceptual Quantizer) -> a higher HDR standard which allows for HDR video with a very high luminance level (up to 10,000 cd/m2). It also supports Rec. 2020 color space.

The introduction of these fixed standards allow for a much more precise preview of the actual result once the recorded Log footage went through post-production. Remember: Everything which is displayed on the Atomos Ninja V’s screen is just a representation of the actual Log footage which is being recorded. Think of it as a kind of preview. Nothing is being baked into the actual recording, so even if you’re switching from beautiful looking HLG to awfully blown-out Rec.709 while you’re recording, nothing is lost! It’s just a preview which helps you (and your client, of course) getting the most out of your given camera and Log profile.

Conclusion

All in all the features and improvements found in AtomOS 10 really make the new Atomos Ninja V shine. The new layout of the menus improve the usability and are way less distracting. The less saturated buttons are a nice touch, too. Even if the old HDR slider seemed cool, the new standardized buttons are much more accurate in order to nail your exposure for a certain delivery format. So I think this new firmware is really a no-brainer and you definitely should give it a try!

Atom OS 10

Atomos Ninja V with some (but not all) of the most popular recent mirrorless cameras.

Links: Atomos.com

Do you already use the new firmware? What do you think of these changes? Share your thoughts and experiences in the comments below!

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Clemens Hillinger
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March 21st, 2019

Hi Olaf,

i got a problem with my Atomos Ninja V. While filming i set my Sony A7iii to HLG3 and then connect it to my Ninja V. Everything works fine until now. As they replaced the HDR slider with the buttons, i have to choose between Native, LOG, HLG, PQ or LUT. And as you said it’s just a preview. But i when import them in Adobe Premiere, Native and LUT look fine, but LOG, HLG and PQ look terribly blown out and not usable. I tried different settings in camera and on the Ninja V, but nothing worked.

Do you know why this is happening?

Thanks in advance and kind regards,
Clemens

Johnnie Behiri
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March 22nd, 2019

Hi Clemens
Best would be to approach Atomos support with this question directly. Usually they are fast to respond.

 Ulises Bravo
Ulises Bravo
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November 15th, 2018

What would you recommend between a Shogun Flame and a Ninja V?

sam broggs
sam broggs
Member
November 14th, 2018

And another request: You have to be able to listen to multiple audio channels at once if you are recording them. Right now you can only listen to predefined stereo pairs. That’s a no go. You have be able to to select which channels you want to hear on which ear. That’s what they promised in their product pictures when the Ninja was released

Steve Oakley
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November 14th, 2018

right now, it appears the Rec 709 profile only uses 100 nits !!!! serious error here. one of the big selling points of Atomos products was daylight viewable images, now the thru that out. really dumb. please complain to them about this because I know when V10 is available for my Sumo I won’t load it over this.

Pablo
Pablo
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November 14th, 2018

*ANY* saturation on an OSD UI (On Screen Display User Interface) is too much saturation, especially when the picture behind the OSD is the one being recorded by a professional video maker. The whole UI should be made of different shades of gray, save a few solid colors for warnings (yellow?) or common UI idioms like red for recording.

I find that creamy tones very corny and definitely unprofessional.

Take a lesson from Blackmagic, guys.

sam broggs
sam broggs
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November 13th, 2018

Does anyone know a videoplayer to preview dnxhd files and select an audio channel to listen to? Atomos built this in a strange way so that you don’t have multiple individual audio streams in a video file but one single stream with multiple channels. Most players as vlc think that it’s a surround sound Stream. So my clients cannot preview the footage on their mac without any editing software.. I cannot expect my clients to work with editing tools.. strange..

Pablo
Pablo
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November 14th, 2018
Reply to  sam broggs

Try mpv.

sam broggs
sam broggs
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November 14th, 2018
Reply to  Pablo

Thanks for your help. I am afraid it doesnt work. I can still only select one audio channel instead of six. It is really a pain to give your clients footage which they cannot preview at home..

Alessio Avezzano
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November 13th, 2018

But they took away the time lapse function. ?

Stephan
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November 16th, 2018

The feature “time-lapse” is not removed from the NinjaV feature list. It’s still coming.
The background is easy to explain. The setup screen for this function is already very busy on the Shogun Inferno 7” screen. It would be even worse to have the same busy screen on a 5” display. The engineers just investigating how to make the setup of time-lapse a bit easier than it fits also on a 5” screen. This is why this function is delayed. It’s for sure coming and for sure within a free Firmware upgrade.

Zeljko Zelenicic
Zeljko Zelenicic
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February 8th, 2020
Reply to  Stephan

Im looking to buy my first atomos product (ninja V) and I see that still as far as I know on Feb2020 there is no function added into atom OS for timelapse… I would go for recorder if it will have same function for timelapse as bigger recorders from atomos…. I wish very much for timelapse option

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