8 Reasons They Never Hired You Again

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8 Reasons They Never Hired You Again

Despite the best intentions, not all crew members are the right fit for all production companies. Production circles can be quite insular, with the same folks in every department moving on together from project to project. This can be good and bad. If you’re happy with your career trajectory, it’s great.  If you feel stuck or want to be on shoots that are different from the work for which you are consistently hired, it can be frustrating. You want to be the one called up with offers instead of the one doing endless submissions. If you’ve recently tried to broaden your network, or if you’ve moved to a new market, and you find yourself with a thinner calendar than you’d like, make sure you’re not making one of these common mistakes.



1. You cancelled (and didn’t replace yourself).

It happens. A more desirable gig comes your way after you’ve already accepted another one. Whether it’s one month or one day’s notice, there’s a right and a wrong way to handle it. First, be fully transparent,  Most producers will understand if another gig is way better for your wallet, your weeks, or your reel. To be clear, though, even in cases where they let you out of your deal memo, it’s not guaranteed you are in the clear.

If you ever want to work with their company again, be upfront about the reason.

“I’ve always wanted to work with this director.” 

“This gig is three months long and yours is only one week.”

“Theirs is a union contract and I need my hours for health care.”

No matter what your reason, if you’re going to inconvenience a company by shaking up their show’s crew, don’t give them the stress of having to replace you.  At least offer to find someone to work in your stead and ALWAYS know that person and his or her quality of work. Lastly, find time to call or text after the gig has wrapped and check in on how that replacement did.  Just because you enjoy working with someone, doesn’t mean that the producers found him or her to be an adequate replacement.  The only way to know is to ask.

2. Your jokes are in bad taste or you long for the days of the Boys’ Club environment. 

Don’t be an idiot. If you haven’t noticed, times are changing for the better. The threshold for prejudiced based behavior is rightfully moving toward zero tolerance. Racist and sexist remarks aren’t funny, and they definitely don’t belong in the work place.  If you say something that makes anyone feel uncomfortable at his or her job, you should immediately apologize. (On my company’s shoots, you would also likely be immediately fired and never work for my company again.)  Here’s a good litmus test for you. If you wouldn’t say something around everyone, it shouldn’t be said at work (or probably period). Besides, if you find something derogatory amusing, maybe you should use the time you have when people aren’t hiring you to work on personal growth.

Part of the stand up 8 Cornerstone: Switzerland Crew- All of these people will be hired again

3.  You broke something…

…and you didn’t fess up.  It is a cardinal production sin. There is little worse than getting back to the office and finding out the threads to a handle or cage were stripped.  Even worse is if it’s something you don’t find until the next camera test. Worst is finding out on the next shoot.  Just own up to it,  and usually, all will be well. That’s why every shoot has insurance. Give a producer the opportunity to L & D whatever you broke, or you’re taking money out of the production’s pockets. If you break a big ticket item, and everyone is around to witness it, definitely don’t start looking for another crew member or a piece of gear to blame.  Accidents happen.  In the case that an accident happens, and you save your person over the gear, of course, let it break, and be safe. No one worth working for would disagree. However, if accidents frequently happen around you, you probably won’t be hired again.

4. You’re late.

Here’s an old adage from the theatre world: Early is on time. On time is late. Late is fired.  If you’re stuck in traffic, give more than ten minutes notice that you’re going to be late. If you can’t get ahold of your department head, text/call your PC or your AD. Call your team members, if that doesn’t work.  Just make sure someone actually acknowledges the communication, or it didn’t happen.

This also applies to folks in post who don’t meet their deadlines on a regular basis.

5. You’re a name dropper, or you reference your resume during a shoot.

Save the war stories for lunch or drinks. Be on the shoot you’re on, and don’t spend your time talking about when you worked with Captain A-List or how the last movie you shot was IMAX.  No one cares, and you’re annoying.

If you’re using these gross modes of conversation to prove your way of doing something is better or you would prefer another way of working, and the current situation is so prohibitive that you MUST say something, then go with, “In my experience, X.”

In the case you’re nauseating everyone around you to prove you’re more skilled than your current position, let your work speak for itself. If you usually operate, but you’re a 2nd AC on this one, they need you to be into the job you’re doing, not broadcasting the job you’d rather be doing. Most likely, the people on your team know your resume via debrief or gossip.  If they respect your opinion, they’ll ask for it.  Until then, charge the batteries; take the paycheck.  Don’t take jobs you feel are beneath you.

6. You talk about money.

If you’ve worked as a producer, you know that this is the WORST.  Here are a few ways talking about money can keep you from being hired again.

You talk about not having any money. You’ll be hired again based upon your merits, not based upon your skill or lack thereof managing your finances.  Don’t poor mouth.  If times are hard, and you need an advance, ask for it in private. Most producers are still human beings, somewhere deep inside, and if they can swing it, they’ll help you out.  If you constantly ask for an advance, you won’t be hired again.  If you are granted an advance, keep it under your hat, or you won’t be hired again.

You complain about your rate, talk about your rate with other crew, or contest your rate that was agreed upon in writing.. Just don’t do it.  You took the gig with knowledge of the rate, so once you’re done negotiating the contract, don’t bring it up again, unless someone asks you to do something outside your role.  For example, if you’re an AC, and someone asks you if it’s okay if you fly a drone for a day, then absolutely ask to be compensated. If you’ve ever taken a gig without a contract, that’s 100% on you.

You talk about money in front of EPs or clients. You shouldn’t be having any conversation about money publicly, but you definitely shouldn’t be doing it in front of the folks bankrolling your job.

7.  You’re not good at your job, or you don’t give the above the line folks what they want.

This is a tough one for most people to accept, especially if someone has just transitioned from entrepreneurship into working on a crew or just graduated.

The best way to grow as an artist and technician in this business is to ask for feedback. On a long shoot, it’s great to ask for a little check up after a few weeks or after someone is noticeably frustrated with you. On a shorter push, it’s a good idea to let the dust settle and then take a meeting.

If the crew is large, talk to your department head. If the crew is small, chat with the person who hired you. If it’s a post mortem, offer to take the person out for coffee in his or her neighborhood.  Ask what you could have done better.  Stomach the question: “What do you think are the areas I need to work on?” Chances are you already know, but they may surprise you. Look at it positively:  it’s an opportunity to be better.

In the case that you’re amazing at your job but find yourself at odds with the personnel above the line, know when to dig your heels in and when to compromise. If you want to work with this company again, dance the line. Examine if the disagreement comes from your need to make the project its best or your need to get your way.  If it’s the former, communicate concisely but passionately.  In the end, protect your reputation and give the director what she or he thinks is right.  Just know it’s not a good fit for the future.


8.  Attitude

My company just took 7 people on a shoot in Switzerland for a month, and when we considered candidates who were equally qualified, we chose the folks with better temperaments.  This is not to say that people have to be likable to be hired consistently. (It helps.) It is to say: crew who are hard-working team players, who are also good at their jobs will get hired over and over again.

The flip side of this is that people who don’t play well with others don’t get hired again. Here are a few generalizations of what I would call attitude problems:

  • People who throw tantrums when they don’t get what they want creatively. In my experience, this ranges from shouting matches to throwing things.
  • Guys who don’t respond well to female leadership.
  • Folks who watch their watches for the second they should get a meal penalty. (But also, feed your crews on time.)
  • Anyone who doesn’t care that they are putting the production off schedule. 
  • People who take unnecessary risks and act like it makes them a badass.
  • Anyone who wants everyone to know how important he or she is.
  • False humility. 
  • The ones making mountains out of mole hills.
  • A person who is more fixated with the problem than the solution.
  • Mansplainers.
  • Whiners.
  • Someone on his or her cell phone while shooting. IE Apathy.
  • Folks who have lost their passion for filmmaking (or even just the project they are on) and are just collecting a check.
  • Anyone who thinks his or her department is more important than anyone else’s.  Come on, camera peeps, you know who I’m talking to.

If none of these seem to apply, it’s a daunting but reasonable option to ask someone who gets hired regularly by a producer who only hired you once what they think the obstacle is. Sometimes, they just have a longer relationship with someone who does exactly what you do. Other times, it’s because there’s something you need to work on.  Here’s to full calendars for us all and lifelong careers where we continue to get better and better.

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Richard Dolesh
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November 14th, 2018

Great Stuff Here!! Sure, some of it may be tough, as this article is essentially breaking down unfounded arrogance which is so prevalent in the industry! For me, It is a discipline when working with others to, pause and seriously access before assuming then rashly thinking ” I can do so much better”. Relationships are ALWAYS more important than a ‘creative angle’…I know that multitudes would rage against that, but it’s the honest truth I have learned. A little discipline sure helps things get done in a graceful way, especially when working with imperfect people.

Joe S
Joe S
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October 27th, 2018

Spot on. Some hard home truths, but it’s all correct.

Narek Avetisyan
Narek Avetisyan
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October 23rd, 2018

What the hell is “mansplaining”?

Mansplainer
Mansplainer
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October 25th, 2018

google it

Gearie Bowman
Gearie Bowman
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October 28th, 2018

I can see her point on Mansplaining. The same holds true when dealing with White people when dealing with minorities in America. It happens all the time. As if we all fell off of a boat, lol.

Jeffrey2626
Jeffrey2626
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October 21st, 2018

I’ll be more than happy if I never work on a production with the woman who wrote this article.

 Patrick Baldwin
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October 21st, 2018
Reply to  Jeffrey2626

I would be REALLY happy to work with Rin. It seems like there are a lot of men who don’t recognise themselves in this article.

Pete Szijarto
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October 29th, 2018

I agree with you Patrick. She seems like a well spoken, intelligent, and respectful producer.

 dooso ertooso
dooso ertooso
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March 1st, 2019
Reply to  Jeffrey2626

I must say, I am not a pro, but an amateur, so … I “raved about the coffee maker” and bought a seeko royal cappuccino. Why her? Adequate price, more or less automatic, not kill !!! But, how much I did not try to get an espresso with her, such as I could drink at a coffee shop, I could not do it … I conducted many experiments, changed many sorts of coffee, both in bags and freshly roasted, as well as bought in the same coffee house where do the “right”, delicious espresso. I played a lot with the adjustment of the coffee grinder, in this saeko … In short, what kind of experience I have.

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October 21st, 2018

Not really sure who this is written for, the DP, camera ops, or PAs and grips?

Because other than cancelling on the morning of I believe the biggest reason today crew don’t get hired back is if every time you turn around they are on Facebook.

I remember last year walking back into a room all my battery powered LEDs were still on – the grip/electric was scrolling away on her phone. I’m looking at the lights, looked at her, looked at the lights, it was literally comical. Camera had been moved out of that room twenty minutes prior.

Pete Burns
Pete Burns
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October 21st, 2018

It takes a big ego to write an article like this. Not once did the author mention respect of camera ops etc. She needs to chill out, 20 minutes on a bouncy castle should fix her!

Gearie Bowman
Gearie Bowman
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October 28th, 2018
Reply to  Pete Burns

Wow!?

Pete Szijarto
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October 29th, 2018
Reply to  Pete Burns

That’s an incredibly sexist comment. I think respect for all crew is implicit in her statements. No offense, but I wouldn’t hire you with an attitude like that.

william sheehy
william sheehy
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October 20th, 2018

Apparently we are in an era of walking on eggshells.

 Dan Hyman
Dan Hyman
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October 19th, 2018

Great article, nails it on a number of points. I’ve found if you do really solid work and go above and beyond the clients expectations on every single job, your phone will ring again. For me, the secret is to stay wide spread, not too many eggs in one basket. The only problem you’ll have then is when they all come back at once for more work.

Réjean
Réjean
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October 19th, 2018

Insightful, but can’t help thinking this applies to above the line talent too-I’ve never worked on anything without a producer (or several) exhibiting multiple characteristics that have been outlined here.

paolo baroni
paolo baroni
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October 18th, 2018

i think this is strictly american….in europe is not like this and expecially in italy is not like this i can only see 2 point valid here, u r late or u don’t present yourself and u break something….for the sexisst stupid jokes or talking about the last production u’ve done, here is mandatory! :)

 Patrick Baldwin
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October 18th, 2018

Brilliant

Joe Saitta
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October 18th, 2018

Everyone lowballs to get work. Then, when you try to get more $, they move on the the next lowballer.

Manu Laroche
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October 18th, 2018

Same shit as usual ..
” I demand loyalty but i wont pay you enough for that”

Vlad Box Rojas
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October 18th, 2018

In other words, don’t hire youtubers…..

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