Canon EOS R5 Firmware Update 1.1.0 Released – Definite Overheating Management Improvement

August 27th, 2020
Canon EOS R5 Firmware Update 1.1.0 Released - Definite Overheating Management Improvement

Canon has just released a firmware update for its flagship mirrorless camera: the Canon EOS R5. This Canon EOS R5 firmware update addresses a few bugs and improves overheat control management. Let’s take a closer look at it!

Edit: Checking recording times in 8K RAW (DCI, 25p) at the office in “normal room temperature” reveals definite overheating management improvement! Not sure why Canon chose no to highlight this improvement, but for us filmmakers, it is definitely good news!

In our short “office test” here is what we got:

  • 20 min straight recording time
  • 10 min recovery time
  • 10 min recording time
  • 9 min recovery time
  • 11 min + recording time
  • 7 min recovery time
  • 7 min + recording time
  • 5:30 min recovery time
  • 7:30 min recording time (And I guess we could continue)….

Canon EOS R5 Firmware Update 1.1.0

The Canon EOS R5 and EOS R6 have been announced for nearly two months now. The least we can say is that these cameras were some of the most anticipated ones of this year. As Canon says, “Demand continues to exceed supply and we are shipping cameras as quickly as possible to get them into the hands of creators.

Even if the Canon EOS R5 and R6 are not in everybody’s hands, overheating issues of the mirrorless cameras are a hot topic. Indeed, you can watch our review of the EOS R6 if you missed it to get a better idea. We’re currently working on a review of the EOS R5 equipped with the latest firmware and we will share our findings soon.

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However, Canon just released a firmware update version 1.1.0 for the EOS R5 that addresses a couple of issues, including:

  • [Overheat control: on] settings are no longer disabled when HDMI display: Camera + External monitor is used, and a message to inform users is shown.
  • The in-lens image stabilization performance during movie recording has been improved for certain RF lenses.
  • Fixes a phenomenon in which the “Slow Synchro” setting screen is not displayed correctly when the language is set to English.
  • Fixes a typo displayed on the communication setting screen when the language is set to Korean.
  • Connectivity during FTP transmission has been improved.
  • Fixes a phenomenon, in which the card access time may take longer when using certain CFexpress cards.
  • In movie recording, the remaining time displayed when powering the camera off/on frequently between recording consecutive short videos (at room temperature) has been made more accurate.
  • A phenomenon in which the movie recording time available is not correctly displayed when the Date/Time/Zone is not set has been corrected.

As you can see, overheating issues of the Canon EOS R5/R6 might not be completely a thing of the past yet, but Canon is already working on further improvements of its cameras.

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Canon EOS R5 and EOS-1D X Mark III Future Updates

Canon already plans to introduce the following video recording functions via a series of future firmware updates:

  • EOS-1D X Mark III:
    • Canon Log 3 option.
    • Lower bitrate option for 5.5K RAW video recording.
    • Lower bitrate option for all the IPB video recording modes.
  • EOS R5:
    • Canon Log 3 option.
    • Lower bitrate option for 8K RAW video recording.
    • Lower bitrate option for all the IPB video recording modes.
    • Adding 119.88 fps option for Full HD (1080p) recording.

The implementation of the Canon Log 3 picture profile is great news for filmmakers. Also, let’s hope that these lower bitrate options can make the EOS R5 shoot for a longer period of time without affecting the quality too much.

Availability

The Canon EOS R5 firmware update 1.1.0 is already available to download from Canon’s website free of charge.

Also, all those future firmware updates will be available free of charge from Canon’s website.

What do you think about the Canon EOS R5 for video recording? Is it on your purchasing radar or are you “on the fence” waiting for Canon to sort things out? Please share with us your thoughts in the comment section below.

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Christian Offenberg
Christian Offenberg
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August 28th, 2020

My my, what a heated discussion the new R5 produces… it is correct, the new firmware is making the camera much more usable in real life situations. Tested it today in a combination of stills but mainly video shoot outside at 23 degrees with a lot of wind. In general I was able to film without limitation. now there wasn’t any heavy load, so I’m looking forward to your test and will for myself try out different scenarios. But I have to agree with Aleve: it is not only about the improved performance of the camera.but I’m actually very mad at Canon. And even though I’m trying hard, I’m not believing the ‘long term protection’ theory. To do so, I would need to see any kind of heat sink or so on the chip. but it is not there. So obviously Canon engineers were obviously quite sure that it will not overheat. And in my opinion this needs at least be mentioned. Because it tells us what this camera might be capable of one day (and that Canon urgently needs new marketing personnel) 😁

Rocky Cola
Rocky Cola
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August 28th, 2020

There has been a lot of testing and tear downs, and speculation about timers and sensors on this camera. There has been much discussion about 60C degree temp workloads in standard electronic fare. All of that makes sense, but it fails to address temperature effects on camera sensor performance and noise, and the long term reliability to the camera of those issues. I am sorry, but I believe for many shooters this new firmware makes a huge difference in the R5’s use ability , and it seems clear Canon will be making more improvements. I suspect within a. Few months things will be even more impressive with this amazing piece of gear.

Peter
Peter
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August 28th, 2020

Ok, got it. It’s the firmware which overheats, not the camera.
Let’s hope the guys at Magic Lantern will be able to cool down the firmware.

Christian Offenberg
Christian Offenberg
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Peter

It seems to be encrypted in a different way, so it might take some time…

Johnnie Behiri
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August 28th, 2020

Guys, first of all, thank you all for participating in this interesting conversation! Our current duties are: 1 – Reaching out directly to Canon and see if there is any interest from their side to elaborate and clarify the chain of events here. 2 – Test and review the EOS R5 (And re test the EOS R6 with the new FW installed). At the end of the day, no matter what Canon say/will say/did or will do, we are the one to be left out in the field to work with those tools, so please bear with us. We are doing all we can to be responsible, transparent and accurate with the information we bring. Thank you again for your patience!

Chris Gibbs
Chris Gibbs
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August 28th, 2020

How will all this flesh-out for us still shooters, will we ever reach that point, shooting just stills where the R5 will overheat and shut down? That for me is the overriding question yet to be addressed.

Aleve Sicofante
Aleve Sicofante
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August 27th, 2020

Guys: you’re a serious news outlet and people trust you. Don’t fall into Canon’s trap. They lied and you should put everything in quarantine and provide no Canon sourced information, etc. until you can check for yourself that Canon has indeed lied, that they put a timer that has no place in thermal checkings and only when you have all the facts, provide your own information about this camera.

I know you may lose your access privileges to new Canon equipment if you conclude they have incurred in bad practices, but you can lose your readers trust if you turn a blind eye on this fiasco.

Most of us believe Canon has scammed consumers into believing their cameras where at their limits when they aren’t. Everybody understands market segmentation, acomplished by artificial limits, but this is plain lying. The scam, however, is also on you, and your reputation is at stake.

We know the camera won’t benefit from any external ventilation (a new firmware brings new lies…) and that they have just slighly modified the timers.

The sooner you take this fiasco into your hands, the better. Until then, please don’t embarrass yourselves by pretending you don’t know what’s going on.

Johnnie Behiri
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August 27th, 2020

Hi Aleve.
We have the EOS R5 in house and will put it through its paces soon. I don’t want to go into “Canon lied or not”. Fact is, that the camera was described by Canon in its official publication as the ultimate tool for content creators, and to our taste, it was not! (When it comes to video it left A LOT to be desired). Fast forward to today, the new FW update brings new life to the camera. If you have it, please try it for yourself with the new FW installed. Now, up until now external ventilation indeed did nothing. With the new FW, the camera CAN react to outside temperature or should I be more exact, to ice bags and vents, ALTHOUGH those might not be needed. The camera behaves completely different now and it is shaping to be a usable working tool. We will conduct our comprehensive test/review during September 5th. (Mini documentary and a review). Right after, editing the material and sharing with the community our findings. BTW, the EOS R6 will get a similar FW treatment. Tomorrow I’ll check the R6 at the office at “normal room temperature” (What ever that is) with the new FW installed and see if it behaves any different from the pre production camera I had before. (I believe it will). Bottom line: If those 2 cameras are becoming a reliable working tools we should joy. Hope you can agree with me here. If not, there are other very good alternative options out there.

Thank you!
Johnnie

Pablo Betancourt
Pablo Betancourt
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August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Johnnie Behiri

“Hope you can agree with me here. If not, there are other very good alternative options out there” As a reader and consumer of your site for several years, I find this statement really embarassing. We don’t need to agree at all to follow you and respect you. The thing is being honest with your public, that’s what I believe you are not understanding. You are taking us as “canon haters” that came to your site for spreading our anger. It’s quite the opposite: we respect you, and that’s the reason I’m taking the time for writing this. And love canon cameras! best, Pablo

 Markus Magnon
Markus Magnon
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August 27th, 2020

100% agree. I am sorry that I got angry. It is not about Canon. Johnnie, you did the best “review” video of the new canon camera. That is why I cannot understand that cined is ignoring all the facts about the new Canon Camera and taking about “firmware update”. Please take a look into it. It is one thing if canon is not 100% honest. But cined should not ignore those news about the camera. As you can see here costumers are informed about the “fake overheating” thing.

cined did great reviews and I also love the DR tests. Please keep it real.

Philip Bloom
Philip Bloom
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Markus Magnon

What is it with this camera and people getting so angry? Let the guys make their review. Let them be professional and then release their findings. The bitter rantings on EOSHD are not professional no matter what his findings. CineD is a classy and trustworthy outfit. There are ways to go about things and they are doing just that.

Aleve Sicofante
Aleve Sicofante
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Philip Bloom

Well, Philip, when a camera manufacturer lies so blatantly about a product like Canon is doing with the R5, people have the right to become angry.

I agree with you about EOSHD manners (I stopped reading that blog long ago), but they aren’t the only ones proving things. I would say that “EOSHD -and others’- findings show Canon is not professional, no matter the bitter rantings”… ;-)

On the bright side, this camera is an engineering marvel. It can record 8K RAW indefinitely wihtout overheating at all. It’s the marketing dept. who decided to introduce all these fake overheating warnings for market segmentation reasons. They should have been openly putting just time limitations, no need to lie.

J L
J L
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August 28th, 2020

“lies so blatantly”.. what is that? Provide proof of that. Any new camera is a ongoing work.

J L
J L
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August 28th, 2020

Canon never hide the overheting in some video modes. This is a high end camera that does things that ANY other camera does for it’s price. Even cine cameras on set are cooled down with fans.

Peter
Peter
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Philip Bloom

” CineD is a classy and trustworthy outfit. ..”
not always….remember the Gh5 review?

Philip Bloom
Philip Bloom
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Peter

Why are you even reading this site if that’s how you feel?

Peter
Peter
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Philip Bloom

I feel like “not always” as I wrote.
Reading this or other sites like EOSHD it’s not an act of faith.

Aleve Sicofante
Aleve Sicofante
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Johnnie Behiri

Of course the firmware is doint something, but not what you think… They have just changed the calculations so the timers are now a bit more lose when external temperature is sensed to go down a bit.

I certainly expect a serious review from you guys when the time comes. Just keep in mind that this time you’ll also have to check for the findings of EOSHD and others.

Pablo Betancourt
Pablo Betancourt
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August 27th, 2020

100% agree here

No Life
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August 28th, 2020

This comment is hilarious.

Jim Barnett
Jim Barnett
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August 28th, 2020

I think you need to get off EOSHD and actually use the camera, I’ve owned the R5 since it came out and have not once seen it overheat. I have used it on a daily basis shooting in all modes and photos and it’s been great so far, I have zero affiliation with Canon and own many canon cameras from the m6mk2, 5d4, C200’s etc and you need to know where the R5 falls in the line up. Did you really think you’d be able to film interviews in 8k on a mirrorless camera? I got banned from EOSHD for asking Andrew if he was ok after he flipped out on me cause I said my camera hasn’t overheated lol. Canon didn’t scam anyone.

Greg Greenhaw
Greg Greenhaw
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August 27th, 2020

Ha the can fix the FTP but not remove the cripple timer what a joke

Petroiescu Claudiu
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August 27th, 2020

How about the fake news with overheating that Canon is promoting! Why nobody talks about it on this website who supposed to be unbias! Come on if you behave like it is not real you will be taxed by users together with the big company! Canon

Johnnie Behiri
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August 27th, 2020

?

 Francisco Falcão
Member
August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Johnnie Behiri

I think what he is trying to say, is that this firmware update is not enough, since it has been proven that it’s not temperature that causes the camera do shutdown but a timer, as the camera never really passes 65 degrees (can’t recall the exact figure now) on the processors, and/or also the tests that were made inside the fridge, the hack with the toothpick that enables to continue filming without problems, etc… Petroiescu, Cine D probably can’t comment or talk about hacks because they can’t endorse such things… although cinema 5D could in the past :P just joking.

Johnnie Behiri
Admin
August 27th, 2020

Hey Francisco. Thank you for elaborating. Checking the new FW on the EOS R5, the camera just became much more usable!
All I can say is, that Canon is listening very carefully to what the market has to say and they are working hard to come up with sensible solutions.

Thank you!
Johnnie

 Markus Magnon
Markus Magnon
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August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Johnnie Behiri

Sorry, but “All I can say is, that Canon is listening very carefully” is not really a satisfying answer to what Petroiescu Claudiu and Francisco Falcão wrote.

There are a lot of people who found out that the canon “overheating” thing is FAKE. It is just a timer. You can reset the internal battery (OFF/ON) and shoot all day.

Canon is limiting cameras below the C-Series all the time. For example bottleneck design at the D-series. From 60 MB/s to 40 MB/s to 20 MB/s. With every new camera.

This is just one example. Also not improving the GUI at all. I understand that Canon is a business. But it sounds like Canon plan was: Lets put 8k in a camera… and we tell the costumers it will overheat. So no professional DoP will buy the camera for video.

The DR is also not really good. Thanks for testing. Not improving over the years at all.

Whatever. Releases an article with the title: “Definite Overheating Management Improvement” Is just BS. It seems cined more and more becomes an “advertising platform”.

 nigel walker
nigel walker
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August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Markus Magnon

Not trying to defend Canon here but no independent testers have all the facts. They have discovered some interesting, and helpful, information but not exhaustive or scientific enough to prove a definitive answer. It’s possible the approach was to be very conservative in the beginning and adjust with firmware. I had a 1DC that overheated on a job in Africa and I pushed it beyond it’s limit and burnt out some boards that cost a few hundred dollars. Imagine if this was the case here and the reaction from the bloggers? They are also not going to give you full cinema capability in a 4k camera.

 Markus Magnon
Markus Magnon
Member
August 27th, 2020
Reply to  nigel walker

“but not exhaustive or scientific enough to prove a definitive answer.”

Not true. If you put the internal battery out and back in… it is pretty scientific. Same with fridges, heat guns. Etc. Some did realy specific tests. And all are showing that the “overheating thing” is fake. And that there is a timer.

Johnnie Behiri
Admin
August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Markus Magnon

Markus Magnon. You seems to be extremely concerned. Did you put your money on the EOS R5? If yes, please install the new FW and enjoy longer filming time in 8K RAW DCI. You did not and don’t have the camera? How about trying it for yourself? Canon made a terrible marketing mistake. They also (probably) tried to protect their upper C line. What ever their reasons were, we will never know. Now, sticking to the facts: 1- Both the EOS R5 and R6 had serious issues when it comes to recording video. 2- Canon is now improving the situation by releasing new FW updates.

I truly hope to keep a positive tune in this conversation and hope you can try to do so too.

Thank you
Johnnie

Pablo Betancourt
Pablo Betancourt
Member
August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Johnnie Behiri

Hi Johnnie, I understand that you are trying to see the positive facts on this issue. But you also need to understand that being a public influencer that writes about equipment comes with more responsability than for the rest of us. The camera seems to have an artificial timer inside that it’s not related to overheating at all (maybe it’s an artificial way of “preserving” the sensor, ok). This firmware update rather than prove the contrary, it actually reinforces the suspicion that Canon is limiting the capabilities of this camera just for marketing decisions. We can discuss if that sound ethical for you or not, but that is another topic. I think you need to understand why people is so ungry about this: Canon seems to be taken all of us as fools. I’ve been waiting for a camera like this for 10 years, I have had the Canon 5d mark II, then I was forced to buy (really dissapointed) the 5d mark III. Then I was forced to move to sony because of this “marketing strategies”. I have had the sony A7s II, then the A7r III. Hate them with all of my heart. I miss canon colors, menus, grip, af (since I couldn’t afford sony glass yet). So, I really wanted to buy the R5, it’s a dream. But not with a little marketing guy inside showing you a timer: Hey, you didn’t pay for this, take 10 minutes and come back. You know better than us that is not possible to film like that, documentaries in the first place. It doesn’t matter if they actually give us a 3 minutes recovery time, it’s artificial anyway! You cannot cut an interview! And the tech the camera has inside is capable of doing that, as all the tests are revealing (scientific or not). Why Canon referes to that timer as “overheating” control? I can understand that a sensor needs to be prevented from heating, as in sony cameras. But this does’nt seem to be the case: https://www.eoshd.com/news/this-is-my-canon-eos-r5-recording-8k-video-50-minutes-straight-until-empty-battery-video-evidence/ Thank you so much and I appreciate your site a lot. Best, Pablo

Philip Bloom
Philip Bloom
Member
August 28th, 2020

Mate you really need to calm down about this. There are many things none of us know about the camera yet especially in regards to long term damage if the timer isn’t there. Do you actually even have the camera?

Pablo Betancourt
Pablo Betancourt
Member
August 27th, 2020
Reply to  nigel walker

“They are also not going to give you full cinema capability in a 4k camera”. Why not? Sony and aothers companies are doing that. This is not the case of a cheaper tech that doesn´t allow you to get cinema capabilities because of the price. The capabilities are already there! And they seem to be putting us an artificial timer so nobody can get use of that. While as you mentioned, the helpfull guys out there that are doing tests may not have a definitive conclusion, it’s has been established that the actual temperature of the camera itself has nothing to do with the actual overheating signal or cut off. So if canon really wants to sell this camera to videographers it should have been very clear about this, which of course is not because there is anything ethical behind the decision they made.

Philip Bloom
Philip Bloom
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  nigel walker

Nigel, some sanity finally! That’s exactly it. Nobody who is doing these experiments have any actual knowledge of the long term damage they can be caused to the camera. There could be a very real reason why the timer is so conservative but before people start streaming conspiracy and rip off let’s how all this develops.

Aleve Sicofante
Aleve Sicofante
Member
August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Philip Bloom

Actually, there’s a ton of knowledge about long term harm to electronics (including image sensors) caused by overheating and none of it points in the direction Nigel suggests. There a zero reasons for timers in a strategy to protect silicon from overheating. If the processor in the R5 stays at around 65º C in a 30º C ambient temperature, it will definitely need a shooting in the desert under the sun to overheat. But even in that situation, a timer wouldn’t be useful. Just shut the camera down when it reaches its max working temperature (which most chips these days have at around 100º C) and you’re good to go. You can put that limit wherever you like, but if you decide to put it a 65º, well you’d be an idiot.

(I come from the electronics and computing world and anyone from that world will tell you all this is farce. No electronics needs more than a few seconds, let alone minutes, to cool down. Now buying that from Canon is beyond naive.)

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August 28th, 2020

Why can’t Canon just say what component is overheating? People are opening up the camera and using thermal sensors and can’t find it? I mean it can’t be that hard to ask their engineers exactly why the overheating warning is there in the first place.

With all this silence from Canon, it just seems like they are coming up with an excuse… Very bad PR, what are they thinking…?

Looking forward to Cined making a review with full transparency regarding the overheating. Don’t do the mistake of giving us the feeling that you are sitting in Canons lap, your readers are too smart for that. Is the R5 usable in a video environment or not (using one of the high quality modes ofc)? Maybe we should just consider the camera a stills camera and forget about the video-side completely.

The A7S III seems great for that, awesome review btw Philip!

Philip Bloom
Philip Bloom
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August 28th, 2020

then don’t buy the camera! Lots of AMAZING options out there! :)

G V
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August 28th, 2020
Reply to  Philip Bloom

People indeed want to see how all this develops, and the silence from Canon, as well as from independent reviewers who don’t hold them to task – is naturally the opposite of that. Canon might only ever respond if enough media / influential sources ask the questions. And maybe not even then.
Based on their lack of response so far – trying to patch a bit over this blunder with FW without ever acknowledging this happened is the ideal scenario for Canon. One which, personally, I don’t think the community should support, if transparency is somehow still important to us.

People of Paris
People of Paris
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August 27th, 2020
Reply to  Johnnie Behiri

Johnnie have you seen this on the R5? https://youtu.be/_hIyw2lweSk

Johnnie Behiri
Admin
August 27th, 2020

Well made video!

Philip Bloom
Philip Bloom
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August 28th, 2020

That makes absolutely no sense.

Oscar M
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August 27th, 2020

Game is on – If they fix all the issues with overheating then all the A7SIII pre orders will be canceled ….. LOL – – Drama.

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