Philip Bloom and Hdi RAWworks DSLR "Master Class".

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Philip Bloom will be charging you an arm and leg to gain from his vast experience with DSLR’s. He is co-hosting a “Master Class” workshop with Hdi RAWworks in L.A. March 6th, 2010.

I think for the $149 fee you could get yourself some more gear. However, the man is the ambassador for DSLR and he is not to be taken lightly. The learning part will come after the class when you actually go out there and shoot. Here is what you are going to get for your hard earned buck fifty.

â–ª Main differences between EOS 1D, 5D and 7D for movie shooting

â–ª In camera settings to maximize image quality in post

â–ª Lens selection

â–ª Stabilization platforms and accessories

â–ª Exposure and shutter speed options

â–ª Focusing and framing tips

â–ª Audio

â–ª Codecs and transcoding options

â–ª Editing and Color correction

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mcgeedigital
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February 25th, 2010

Well said Neil.

Dustin
Dustin
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February 15th, 2010

Neil,
Very well put!

sven
sven
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February 15th, 2010

who is phillip bloom

jared
jared
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February 15th, 2010
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autobonproductions
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February 15th, 2010

I am coming all the way from Boston for this, I cant wait!

Philip Bloom
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February 15th, 2010

Great stuff, look forward to meeting you. Aiming to have a meet up the next day for casual lunch if you are still around.

autobonproductions
autobonproductions
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February 15th, 2010
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defiantly, looking forward to meeting you too.

David Rilstone
David Rilstone
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February 15th, 2010

Bought P.B.’s 7D DVD and found it well worth it. When (if) Phil does a session in Toronto I will sign up.
My time is valuable, my investment in equipment & software is considerable. Phil cuts to the chase; cost to benefits are extremely good.

Vu Bui
Vu Bui
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February 15th, 2010

Arm and a leg? Body parts must be really cheap where the writer of this post is from. I actually thought it was a joke until it was mentioned again at the bottom of the post “hard earned buck fifty”

$150 is absolutely nothing to pay for a 3-hour class with an actual specialist. Philip knows his shit, and if you’ve ever been to a film or photo industry talk/workshop, you’ll know this price is a dream and obviously not for profit.

Anyone interested should gladly pay it, and with Neil’s confident cash-back guarantee, what have you got to lose?

jared
jared
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February 15th, 2010
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I agree the cash back guarantee should be mentioned in the flier for the workshop. I am not bashing the class, just the price. To some, the $150 is quite a lot of money. Thanks for the comment.
Jared

Vu Bui
Vu Bui
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February 15th, 2010
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$150 is a lot of money to some, that’s true. But if someone can’t afford $150 to learn how to use their thousands upon thousands of dollars of gear… there’s something wrong. Some people spend $150 on Friday night out for drinks.

Compared to other workshops out there, this is a great deal. So the $150 should be compared to what else is out there, AND to what value you get out of it… rather than what’s in your pocket.

As for the guarantee… it seems like Neil just threw that out there because he is confident that he’s not going to run into it. It was part of his response to your article… and it’s a good one. If someone read your post they might be swayed against attending the class… seeing that an industry information source thinks it’s too expensive… so his response here was fitting, telling your readers that if they choose to attend even after reading your post, he’s guaranteeing satisfaction. It makes no sense that it would be on the flier.

I do have to disagree though, you say you’re not bashing the class, just the price. But in bashing the price, you’re saying the information is not worth the money… which is saying that it’s valueless.

The thing that many people also don’t seem to understand is the work and logistics and actual costs that go into putting together a workshop. Even a simple one in a hotel room costs a lot more and takes a lot more time than people understand.

vladbox
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February 15th, 2010

Well Cinema 5D (in defense of P.Bloom) tell me what is the great lens/gear that you could by with $149.? On the other hand with a piece of inexpensive glass and the knowledge you may gain from extracting all you can from these cameras, you could very well turn those $149 into a great looking PAID for project.
Cheap, cheap cheap comment.

jared
jared
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February 15th, 2010
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Thanks for the comment. To some $150 is quite a lot money to spend on a class. I could think of a few smaller support items such as batteries, filters, CF cards and the like. I am not bashing the class as much as the price. It has been justified in the replies here. How can you go wrong with a cash back guarantee?
Jared

Shmuel Hoffman
Shmuel Hoffman
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February 15th, 2010

Price is very fair. The DVD from PB is good, but overpriced. I think $80 would be more applicable. But for a life course $150 is nothing. Also you can ask questions what you can’t the DVD.

Neil Smith
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February 15th, 2010

Philip is not charging anyone for this Canon Master Class … I am …. Philip is running the class but I am organizing all the logistics, equipment, staff and room hire … and paying for PB to come down to LA from SF on his way to the SxSW Festival.

Regarding your comment that I am charging ‘an arm and a leg’ for the PB Master Class, I’d just like to say that pricing an event like this is always a tricky thing …. we could charge nothing, in which case it wouldn’t happen or we could charge $800 for the day which is the norm for high-end professional photo training events here in LA … neither of those two extremes appealed to me.

The price of admission to the PB Canon Master Class is about the same as the price of Philip’s EOS 7D Training DVD which I purchased a few months ago … did I think paying $150 for a training DVD was too much? – you bet! …. I’m a Yorkshireman living in a LA and hate to pay for anything … especially, this weird stuff called ‘knowledge and expertise’ … however, having studied Philip’s DVD for few hours and implementing his suggestions, I quickly realized that it was the best $150 I’d spent in a long time …. in fact, I would have happily paid $200 for the privilege of picking PB’s brain (don’t tell Philip that, his brain’s already big enough as it is) …. after watching his DVD, I went off and got way more than $150 dollars worth of increased production value in my 7D movie shooting … way more! .. DVD paid for itself in a matter of hours.

So instead of asking if can you afford to pay $150 for three hours with PB in a proper theater on a movie lot (same movie lot where David Fincher has just finished shooting ‘The Social Network’) you might want to ask yourself if you can afford NOT to pay $150 for the pleasure of hearing Philip explain how to get the most out of these amazing Canon HD DSLRs …. not just listening to what he has to say, but also questioning him on anything you didn’t understand and seeing his films projected on a thirty foot screen in glorious 2k … it will be a great interactive learning experience with a guy who is really at the forefront of taking HD DLSR filmmaking to the next level.

And just so you know, I actually wanted to charge more for this event but it was PB who insisted on keeping the price down to $150 .. I have members of the ASC wanting to come along to hear what Philip has to say …. and those chaps know a little a bit about the art of cinematography.

Come along to the Canon Master Class on March 6th and if you’re in anyway dissatisfied with the value of the training you received (for what ever reason) I will gladly give you a full refund there on the spot (cash) … however, in return, if you thought the PB Canon Master Class was indeed excellent value for money, I’d ask that you post your appreciation here.

As my mother always says (in broad Yorkshire, mind you) … “there’s ‘owt for nowt in this world, lad.”

Neil Smith
Producer
Philip Bloom Canon Master Class
RAWworks
LA. CA.
http://www.hdirawworks.com

jared
jared
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February 15th, 2010
Reply to  Neil Smith

Thanks for the comment. Your input is greatly appreciated.
Jared

jared
jared
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February 15th, 2010
Reply to  Neil Smith

Neil, you did a great job of breaking down some of your costs and justification for the expense of the class. Thanks for the money back guarantee. That is a very good offer. Rare these days in the film world. I also wanted to thank you for putting all of this together for everyone. You are obviously passionate about DSLR’s.
Thanks for the comment.
Jared

Hunter
Hunter
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February 15th, 2010

I just signed up for it. I think it’s worth it. You can have all the pro equipment in the world but it boils down to nothing if you dont have the skills to harness it all.

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