RED Komodo Update – Price, Pre-Release Custom-Color Version, PDAF

May 19th, 2020
RED Komodo Update - Price, Pre-Release Custom-Color Version, PDAF

RED Komodo is getting close to its release. While we still don’t have final confirmed specs of the camera, we now know the price will be around $7.000 for Stormtrooper (white) edition and around $6.000 for the regular black version which comes after that. Before Stormtroopers, RED will ship limited custom-colored Komodos for $7.000 or slightly above that. According to Jarred Land, this will happen already on June 1st, 2020.

RED Komodo Stormtrooper version will cost around $7.000 Source: RED

When hunting for new information about RED Komodo, in addition to REDuser.net, Jarred’s social media accounts seem to be the right place. Recently, Jarred Land, president of RED Digital Cinema, posted some useful information regarding RED Komodo on his Instagram account.

It has been a while since we last posted an update on RED’s latest compact cinema camera. Since then, there have been a few interesting updates, so let’s get into it.

RED Komodo – Sale Starts with Limited Pre-Release Colored Version

In his post on Instagram, Jarred wrote that the production of RED Komodo is back on track after the interruption caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Due to the new safety protocols, it is, however, going much slower. Jarred further wrote that in two weeks, RED will start selling the first batch of cameras in “super limited low quantities”. The post was written on May 17, so I suppose this will start on June 1, 2020 (as May 31 is a Sunday).

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New step in the the process? 15 minutes in the magical UV Bubble just for good measure. Now that our factory is back in action …albeit severely anemic with the new protocols, we can slowly start making Komodos again. it’s a really, really slow train now so it’s gonna take a while to get enough of our troops back to start making enough volume to blast out to dealers and the world but the good news is to pass that time and keep our skeleton crew busy, in 2 weeks I’m gonna start selling some crazy colored Komodos to my friends and anyone else who wants to be a little “different” . Super limited low quantities. Will make just a handful per week till the stormtroopers are ready . Email me if your interested.

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Now, these cameras will be pre-release versions with custom colored housing. Jarred said, that hardware is finalized, but in terms of firmware, there might still be some bugs that will get ironed out with later updates. Some of you might already know that RED usually starts selling a new camera in a white version – called Stormtrooper. These cameras are coming even before Stormtroopers.

Jarred said anyone interested in getting one of these early colored pieces, should write him an e-mail. It is not clear at this point, whether the early adopters get to choose the color of the housing or if RED just ships a random color.

The colorful Komodos are not new. We have already seen the green BAYHEM Komodo for Michael Bay and the custom orange/red version for Lana Wachowski.

RED Komodo – Price

Now, speaking of price, in the same Instagram post Jarred said that the Stormtrooper (white) RED Komodo will cost around $7.000 and the regular black version (which comes after that) will cost around $6.000.

When it comes to the price of the pre-stormtrooper colored version, Jarred said: “Everything got way more expensive cause of this whole virus thing but I’m gonna hold these custom colors to the stormtrooper price for as long as I can.” This means the first custom-colored Komodos could cost slightly over the $7.000 mark.

Jarred confirmed multiple times that the special discount for Hydrogen owners still applies to the regular black RED Komodos that will come after the Stormtroopers. It has not been yet disclosed how much the discount will be. Early on, Jarred said that for Hydrogen owners, the Komodo should cost under $5.000. He also confirmed this few times in the process. It remains to be seen if this gets unaffected by the current circumstances.

So again, the only way how to currently pre-order the RED Komodo is to contact Jarred Land directly at [email protected].

More RED Komodo Footage

The following Komodo-related news were announced a bit earlier already, but I decided to include them in order to have a complete cinema5D coverage of the process since my last update on Komodo. Roughly a month ago Jarred Land shot Brad Pitt for the opening video of Saturday Night Live show with the RED Komodo.

Jarred said he shot this with the Komodo with the SIGMA cinema 50-100mm zoom lens.

RED Komodo – Phase Detect Autofocus Demo

A bit over a month ago, Jarred posted a short demonstration of the Komodo’s Phase Detect Autofocus (PDAF) on his Instagram. It is quite interesting as it also shows the touch interface of the Komodo.

The main thing that still remains undisclosed about the RED Komodo are the official specs. We get a pretty good picture of the camera’s capabilities from what Jarred said over the months. For those who are pre-ordering the camera right now, an official list of specs would be nice though. Here is a roundup of known specs (from my previous article):

  • New Super 35 6K sensor that features global shutter and rolling shutter modes as well as Phase Detect Auto Focus
  • Max Resolution: 6144×3240 (full sensor with DCI aspect ratio)
  • Max Framerate: 6K FF @ 40fps, 6K WS @50fps, 4k @60fps shouldn’t be a problem, there should be 48fps modes available
  • Anamorphic Support: Yes, but it will not be officially available till around two months after initial release
  • Codec Support: Internal Compressed RAW (REDCODE RAW, R3D), unknown if other codecs are supported as of now
  • Lens Mount: Integrated Canon RF Mount. Jarred said they are doing the EF protocol first, so native support for RF lenses will most likely not be there at launch.
  • Media Type: CFast 2.0 (body features a media slot compartment w/ door). Jarred later said they are also testing CFexpress for future use, but for Komodo they decided to stick with CFast 2.0.
  • Power Options: Dual slot Canon BP style batteries (various capacities) with hot swap and ability to run off one battery, DC input 12V (LEMO), Lower power draw than DSMC2
  • Camera Control: Integrated Touch Screen, On Camera Buttons, Some sort of Smartphone Interface, WiFi Control, EXT Port
  • Monitoring: Top Side Pogo Cableless Display Tech, 4K 6G or 12G SDI Out
  • Audio: Mic In 3.5mm jack, Headphone Jack, Internal Scratch Mic
  • Camera Cooling: It appears there’s an internal heat sink and fan w/ vent
  • Form Factor: < 4x4x4″ with magnesium/aluminum alloy body
  • Body Weight: < 2lbs
  • Buttons/Indicators: on/off switch, power/status indicator, record button, tally light, menu, menu selection up/down, funtion set, playback (probably toggle), 2X eject buttons for batteries, media compartment open
  • Wireless Camera Inteface/Control: WiFi w/ Antenna
  • Mobile Phone Support: Android and iOS
  • Rigging: 1/4″-20 around Pogo, 4X M4 around front of camera, 1X M3 for focus hook, general base plate form factor of DSMC2-style bodies

What do you think of the RED Komodo so far? Will you be pre-ordering the camera? Do you own the RED Hydrogen to qualify for the discount? Let us know in the comments below the article.

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Denise Wildrick
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June 27th, 2020

Very excited for this camera!! Haters gonna hate!

 Carl Weston
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June 7th, 2020

The first RED Komodo footage is on youtube, you be the judge.

AEY
AEY
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May 29th, 2020

I can buy 3 BMPCC6K + ATEM Mini pro with all accessory ready for production.

Oneorbit
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June 4th, 2020
Reply to  AEY

But are they RED cameras. Being sarcastic of course :)

erin
erin
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May 22nd, 2020

it would be to change my 911 gt3 to a in german we say… ” SACKKARRE”( tesla the dacia af usa) coppy?
red is ashithole of nothing.usless..

erin
erin
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May 22nd, 2020

red tesla apple marketingshit… forget that crap. okay?
if, sell this for its real
1299,90.- coppy?

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May 21st, 2020

I dont know why, but I am not intrested in RED cameras anymore…. The Komodo seems to be knocked out by´Kinefinity Edge…but it may also be the company of RED, that has a very bad image in the industry now….

Matthew Hartman
Matthew Hartman
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May 21st, 2020

I want to preface my comments/reactions that in no way am I a RED hater, I work with all types of footage, and perhaps that gives me a level of insight for about what I’m about to say below.

With the SNL skit it’s really hard to judge the image because it’s a keyed image of Brad Pitt. Looks like a reasonable enough key.

Overall, I’d say the image looks pretty clean and the rolloff is acceptable but at the same time I’m not perceiving anything special about it. So far, RED is failing to make the case that I should choose this package over a host of others that are way more affordable and definitely more accessible at this point.

To be honest and upfront, I’m sort of over RED when it comes to it’s pricing schemes. Ultimately it comes off a bit pretentious and greedy. Is $6k really the best they can do, or the best they want to do for consumers?

Arri can hold the line because of their lengthy legacy within the industry, but RED in relation is still a “newcomer” to the scene, but they’re pricing suggests they think of themselves as legendary as Arriflex.

Distribution has vastly changed in the last 10 years or so, other manufactures seem to be catching on in ways that RED refuses to and it gets a bit annoying. Even more annoying are the consumers that buy into these systems that think they’re getting something really special for all that buck.

 Sight Sound
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May 20th, 2020

Storm trooper inspiration? Doesn’t bode well for the accuracy of the AF system.

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May 20th, 2020

The AF is not good enough IMHO. The moment it is locking focus, it does a quick breathing (as if not sure if it’s the right focus), and then it locks. This is not usable in a professional environment. Neither Sony or Canon has such a problem with their AF tech. Yes, you could argue that professionals wouldn’t use AF, but that’s not true anymore. More and more of them do. And it’s RED that’s advertising that feature anyway.

David Gurney
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May 21st, 2020
Reply to  Eugenia L

Not to mention that this clip shows him dragging the focus point. Seriously? If you can’t change focus points merely by tapping, that’s a major design error.

Another perplexing decision is to offer the RF mount… but only the EF protocol. What they should admit is that they already have the EF protocol reverse-engineered but not the RF.

Gabriel
Gabriel
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May 26th, 2020
Reply to  David Gurney

They’re future-proofing for the new generation of lenses, but recognizing that the majority of us have EF lens collections, and don’t plan on buying redundant RF versions of our lenses anytime soon. It seems logical to me, TBH

blueUnicorn
blueUnicorn
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May 20th, 2020

This camera died before it even released.

Matthew Hartman
Matthew Hartman
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May 21st, 2020
Reply to  blueUnicorn

Pretty much, unless your a RED diehard. There’s just much cheaper competition these days. I would have thought even RED would have retooled for that reality. But I’m sure the diehards will keep their gravy train pouring on their mashed potatoes.

Gabriel
Gabriel
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June 19th, 2020

Ehhh…I bought the 1DXM3 and I have the SiqFüti Yellow Komodo. There’s no comparison. The image out of the Canon was noisy, details were muddy, the colors were awful and blocky…in a way that was actually quite stunning. Even at its best, when you lay that image next to the 16bit RED raw image, there’s no comparison. The Canon “raw” (which is in no way raw) just looks flat and chunky. Komodo looks like…well, RED. It’s got a gravitas to the image. I returned the Canon, obviously. The image out of the Komodo looks like a slightly cropped Helium. Same robust colors, resolution is super sharp, typical insane RED dynamic range, and RED raw is so easy and flexible. The camera is absurdly durable. The PDAF is decent, and they’re improving it as we go along. The 1DX, which is the obvious comparison camera right now…honestly doesn’t look any better than the A7s2, whereas the Komodo looks like a Helium. I don’t know that you have to be a diehard to see the obvious choice here.

 Barry Gregg
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May 20th, 2020

I’m wondering if it would work to buy a used Hydrogen and then get the $1k discount. Probably not I suspect. Used Hydrogens are are on eBay for around $100.

Sam
Sam
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May 22nd, 2020
Reply to  Barry Gregg

Not unless you bought the Hydrogen before the announcement of the Komodo discount. You have to provide receipt with purchase date and unused serial number.

jon snowglobe
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May 19th, 2020

Too rich for my blood, I was hoping for sub 5000. But red wasnt made for the consumers.

David Gurney
David Gurney
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May 21st, 2020
Reply to  jon snowglobe

It’s not so much the price of the camera, but the price of all the proprietary crap you have to buy with it. Red media (and the readers you need for it) were a prime example.

At least this thing uses CFast, but that’s also a rip-off, headed for obsolescence any day now.

PC&E Camera
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May 19th, 2020

No official specs but they come in cool colors…OK

Willem Probst
Willem Probst
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May 19th, 2020

Pay 1K for another color?

David Gurney
David Gurney
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May 20th, 2020
Reply to  Willem Probst

It’s disappointing to see that Red still hasn’t evolved into a professional-grade entity. They’re still setting juvenile priorities that don’t serve customers and delay product delivery. Not to mention the amateur-hour nature of Red’s communications. This is a perfect example:

“When hunting for new information about RED Komodo, in addition to REDuser.net, Jarred’s social media accounts seem to be the right place. Recently, Jarred Land, president of RED Digital Cinema, posted some useful information regarding RED Komodo on his Instagram account.”

That is pathetic. When you have to troll through comment forums on a fan site (Reduser.net, which Red didn’t even own) to find firmware updates for $20K-$60K cameras, you’re not dealing with a company that has its act together. Here we are a decade later and Red appears to be just as unprofessional as ever.

Jim Jannard changed the industry and held Sony to account for peddling lame HD video cameras for $100K+. But Red has been left behind by accelerated quality improvements and price reductions delivered by other companies. Maybe eventually their business will devolve into a shell that licenses their BS software patent and calls it a day.

Gabriel
Gabriel
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May 26th, 2020
Reply to  David Gurney

Do you prefer the black box tactics of deliberate tech-crippling by Canon and Sony and Arri? RED takes a big risk by peeling back the curtain on all their R&D for the general public. But at least they show you their cards, the don’t deliberately limit their tech, and they are candid about what’s coming down the pipeline. I dig it. Better than trying to guess how Canon is going to deliberately kneecap their technology and when they plan to make it obsolete.

Will
Will
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June 5th, 2020
Reply to  Gabriel

Red have also had their fair share of price gouging and deliberate obsolescence too. The whole, $1800 for a $50 Kingston mSata is pretty hard to swallow; especially for production houses that had to replace all their media when switching to DSMC2. There are a number of Japanese manufacturers who have continued to update firmware long after the cameras have been discontinued; Fuji added Flog and 120fps to the XT2, Sony added 4K to the F5 and Raw/HFR to the FS5…I could go on. I agree Canon have held back (particularly in the mirrorless space) but their cameras and Pro service are second to none; there are still lots of folks making a living with C100s.

Bella Pics
Bella Pics
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June 21st, 2020
Reply to  Will

That little line about Sony adding 4K to the Sony F5 long after the F5 was discontinued. This is not true. Sony added 4K because Paul Ream hacked the F5 early on and found out that there was a key to open up the 4K pipeline for the F5. Sony basically deliberately disabled that functionality. How did that make F55 owners feel about paying that extra 12,000 that they could have saved? I’m aware of the global shutter sensor and the wider gamut color filter over the sensor for the F55 but that should not add up to 12,000 more than the F5. When was Sony going to mention the 4K key to the F5 owners? I don’t think Sony had plans to mention this. The big selling point for the Sony F55 was being able to shoot 4K.

Zack
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June 29th, 2020
Reply to  David Gurney

What camera do you prefer to shoot on?

Axel
Axel
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August 7th, 2020
Reply to  Willem Probst

That’s so stupid…

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