Apple ProRes RAW Beta Release For Windows

March 31st, 2020
Apple ProRes RAW Beta Release For Windows

Apple has announced a beta software download to enable Apple ProRes Raw and ProRes RAW HQ compatibility on Adobe Windows systems.

ProRes RAW now on Windows. Image credit: cinema5D

Apple states the beta software will playback in Compatible Applications, listing the below Adobe programs:

  • Adobe After Effects
  • Adobe Media Encoder
  • Adobe Premiere Pro
  • Adobe Premiere Rush

Download the Apple ProRes RAW for Windows 1.0 (Beta) here

A Brief History of ProRes RAW

Apple announced ProRes RAW some two years ago now, with the roll-out for compatibility being a little…. slow.

It wasn’t until September 2019 that Adobe added ProRes RAW as standardized formats to their OS software packages. And now, two years on from the birth of ProRes RAW we are only just seeing beta patches for Windows.

Aside from the odd DJI drone, little other camera manufacture has natively taken the workflow on. Atomos has been the frontier for the format, offering a handful of recorders compatible with the ProRes RAW.

It does seem an appropriate pairing for now– well-integrated third party recording hardware that can work with cameras that don’t have their own raw workflow in place.

It is not raw as some people will be used to – you cannot change values of white balance and exposure index like you can with the likes of ARRIRAW or RED R3D (why so many capital letters?!).

But what it does do store metadata of camera information whilst expand the bandwidth of your recording. The full white paper on Apple ProRes RAW can be found here.

Past ProRes RAW Coverage

In case you missed some of our past coverage of ProRes RAW, here you go:

Why Atomos ProRes RAW Recording for Nikon Z 7 and Z 6 Could Change our Industry
ProRes RAW Explained – Plus Footage (video interview with Atomos CEO Jeromy Young)

Atomos Shogun 7 Announced – 5.7K ProRes RAW, Live Switching, 1500nit HDR Recorder & Monitor
Atomos Ninja V – 5″ ProRes RAW Recorder
Panasonic EVA1 Firmware 2.0 Enables All-I Codecs, RAW, Atomos Adds EVA1 RAW Compatibility

Are you using ProRes RAW already? Let us know in the comments below. 

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 Ronald Evans
Ronald Evans
MemberMarch 31st, 2020

ProRes RAW has been available in EDIUS since last year as well as exporting ProRes so this isn’t the first WINDOWS introduction. EDIUS also supports BRAW too.

Ryan
Ryan
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

Edius couldn’t recover highlights the way the beta versions of Premiere have been able to in my comparison testing so no, Edius doesn’t really count.

Stu Stu
Stu Stu
GuestApril 3rd, 2020

Oh please. So you can’t even differentiate between CODEC SUPPORT and simply the quality (or lack thereof) of an NLE’s color tools?? ??‍♂️

Philip Bloom
MemberMay 10th, 2020

Maybe try replying in a polite non-obnoxious manner? Go on.

Holt Rhinehart
Holt Rhinehart
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

“It is not raw as some people will be used to – you cannot change values of white balance and exposure index like you can with the likes of ARRIRAW or RED R3D”

Please remove this glaringly false assertion. ProRes Raw is absolutely analogous to other legitimate raw formats, unlike BMD “raw” which bakes in color data and is NOT raw. Are you confusing the two?

Stu Stu
Stu Stu
GuestApril 3rd, 2020

⬆️ Exactly THIS! Yes. ⬆️

And no, he’s not confusing anything. It’s just the usual, intentionally misleading nonsense that is prevalent with every and anything that has the word “Apple” in it here.

Philip Bloom
MemberMay 10th, 2020

My god man you think this is a conspiracy? Get a life FFS. This is the first official support of Prores raw in Windows. Is this such a complicated thing to understand?

Philip Bloom
MemberMay 10th, 2020

No it’s not.

Akpe Ogirigbo
Akpe Ogirigbo
MemberMarch 31st, 2020

So its not possible to change values of white balance and exposure index? So BRAW is better than ProRes RAW then. Thank goodness i invested in a pocket 6k and not a Nikon Z6 + Atomos.

Jonathan Grijalva
Jonathan Grijalva
GuestApril 1st, 2020

I don’t think that is accurate. You have the same level of flexibility, it’s just not laid out the same. At least from the information I have gathered. You can adjust all the parameters they are just laid out in the way that Final Cut Pro has it laid out. Who knows how adobe will incorporate it into Premiere Pro. Also from what i understand it’s slightly more flexible than Braw because braw has to debater internally because of R3Ds patten, while ProRes Raw is a straight raw undebayered signal. I doubt you’ll be able to tell the difference between the two, and I’m sure your investment is still a great one.

Akpe Ogirigbo
Akpe Ogirigbo
MemberApril 1st, 2020

Its just that according to the article its states that its not possible to change the “white balance and exposure index”. The whole reason to shoot RAW is so you can change the white balance and ISO. Even though am happy with BRAW, it would be really nice if Prores Raw has the same flexibilty also for those that are going to be using it.
I also saw a video on youtube of someone editing prores Raw in fcpx, and wasn’t as flexible as Braw.

Holt Rhinehart
Holt Rhinehart
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

The article is wrong. I have no idea where that bogus assertion came from, except maybe confusion between BlackMagic’s fake “raw” and ProRes Raw.

Akpe Ogirigbo
Akpe Ogirigbo
MemberApril 3rd, 2020

Call it fake raw all you want (if it helps you sleep at night), as long as it allows me adjust wb, ISO and image quality is just as good as my previous dng files, then its 100% good for me. Add to that, the file size isn’t heavy. What more can one ask for?

Sherif Mokbel
Sherif Mokbel
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

This is an information I’ve been trying to dig out about the WB control. So far on cameras such Panasonic and Canon, they Bake in the WB and ISO in their RAW output at the camera level before it reaches the Recorder (ATOMOS), but the issue is that i haven’t seen anywhere in FCPX showing any RAW controls for WB except in the color wheels, which is always fixed at 5000K as a starting point. So can you 100% confirm your sources about “you cannot change values of white balance and exposure index” that this is an Apple or FCPX restriction, not just a camera restriction?
Also the metadata part, FCPX is not showing any info fields in their info tab that has teh lens info. Even though the info is there. weird move from their side

Holt Rhinehart
Holt Rhinehart
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

Not true either. Atomos and the camera manufacturers have established a raw data pipeline over HDMI. Nothing is baked in. The only thing coming over with pixel data is metadata.

Publishing conjecture as fact does a major disservice to readers.

Philip Bloom
MemberMay 10th, 2020

Oh Holt, calm down.

Oliver Moereels
Oliver Moereels
GuestApril 1st, 2020

ProRes Raw has no separate metadata controls at this point. So you don’t get separate sliders or menus. That does not mean the metadata is not there. Separate controls might be coming in the future. In FCPX, wb and level adjustments are done with the normal color controls. But you do notice there is much more information to play with vs a 422 codec.
As for Braw. It looks nice, performs on par with ProRes Raw and works great. But it compresses a partially debayered image. It does not do a full debayer in post. That’s a nice trick to speed things up and there seems to be no visual penalty. But strictly speaking, it’s not raw.
I think ProRes Raw has got a lot of potential. It’s a fast, real-time compressed raw codec that even works well on older machines. It needs improvement, like extra menus for people who like to play with the metadata. And extra adoption. But it is solid. And true raw.

Ryan
Ryan
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

Premiere has one metadata slider so far and it’s for exposure. And highlight recovery is fantastic so far work my testing! That being said, I’m feeding it Z6 Prores RAW through my Ninja V and the colour science is totally off so more work left to do.

Holt Rhinehart
Holt Rhinehart
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

No, that assertion in the article is totally wrong. The author may be confusing ProRes Raw with BlackMagic “raw,” which is NOT raw. BM “raw” bakes in some of the deBayering (by BM’s own admission), which defeats the purpose of raw.

Stu Stu
Stu Stu
GuestApril 3rd, 2020

And too bad that you don’t even have the slightest clue what you’re going on about, which even the biggest and best camera will never change. But hey, at least you can ignorantly boast to your buddies about it down at the pub, hm? Yeah.

Because sorry, but there is absolutely ZERO that is “better” about B”RAW”… starting with the fact that IT ISN’T EVEN RAW, TO BEGIN WITH, so there isn’t even a comparison to speak of. Oops.

But nice to see that you’ve swallowed BMD’s PR BS hook, line, and sinker. You can be so proud.

Philip Bloom
MemberMay 10th, 2020

You truly are incredibly obnoxious sent you? It’s like he has personally insulted you. Tim has been way more polite than I would be in this situation. Prores raw DOES not let you adjust metadata like “proper” raw. Not yet anyway.

Onn Henner
Onn Henner
GuestApril 1st, 2020

Don’t work.. I’ve installed the file, neither Premiere of After Effects recognize the files.. I’ve also tried to copy the files to formats folder in AE.. still nothing happened

Jonathan Grijalva
Jonathan Grijalva
GuestApril 1st, 2020

Adobe barely announced like 4 days ago that you could access the beta version if you really need it, and would need to sign their non disclosure agreement. It will be a few more weeks before the masses have a beta version available. Look on the adobe site, if you absolutely need the beta you can contact Patrick and he will send it to you. I’m nosy sure where Tim Fok is getting his info, maybe he could shed some light?

Ryan
Ryan
GuestApril 2nd, 2020

Gotta download the beta app (Premiere Pro (beta)), which isn’t available to everyone yet. To find out if it’s available to you, check the left hand side under categories in Creative Cloud for “Beta Apps”, it’s in there.

Jonathan Grijalva
Jonathan Grijalva
GuestApril 1st, 2020

I’m pretty sure adobe is still in the beta phase and it’s not yet available to the masses. Unless I am missing something? Also, I could be wrong but I am Serrano you can adjust the white balance but it’s laid out differently. Have you found something that states otherwise? If so could you please direct me there? Thanks!

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