Kinefinity MAVO Edge Announced – 75fps 8K For Under $12,000

April 27th, 2020

2020 is shaping up to be a great year for camera releases despite the current global situation. Kinefinity’s new MAVO Edge brings some very high specifications to the table, including 8K at up to 75fps, at a really sweet price point. Let’s take a closer look.

The 8K Kinefinity MAVO Edge has been announced.

The 8K Kinefinity MAVO Edge has been announced. Image: Kinefinity.

Kinefinity, it’s fair to say, will be sending ripples throughout the industry today with the announcement of its new 8K MAVO Edge camera.

Headline Features of the MAVO Edge

  • Full-frame 8K sensor (36x24mm CMOS)
  • Dual native ISO at 800/3200
  • 8K ‘wide’ resolution at up to 75 fps
  • Open gate 3:2 8K at up to 48fps
  • 6K Wide at up to 100fps
  • 4K Wide at up to 160fps
  • 14+ stops of dynamic range
  • ProRes RAW internal recording

The sensor has a total of 44.7MP with a resolution of 8192×5456 when shooting in 3:2 open gate settings. The lens mount is a native KineMOUNT, which can be adapted to PL, LPL, active EF, and passive E-mount systems. An OLPF (optical low pass filter) is present, as well as a UV and IR cut filter. A full overview of all shooting modes is shown below.

Kinefinity MAVO Edge shooting modes

The full list of resolutions and frame rates on the Kinefinity MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity.

A Closer Look

Kinefinity already has a reputation for producing incredibly capable cameras for the price, with many people who have used them now preferring them to the competition. The MAVO Edge looks set to continue in this tradition.

A glance at the camera body shows that a lot of thought has gone into it. The body is constructed from carbon fibre, which helps to make it very strong, but also light and portable, weighing in at only 1.2kg. The camera is also equipped with a motorised full-spectrum e-ND filter.  This switches between clear glass, and an electronic ND filter, which ranges from 2-7 stops with continuous adjustment.

8K full frame at less than US$12k

8K full frame at less than US$12k? The MAVO Edge promises all this and more. Image Kinefinity.

This is quite a step forward. I have been waiting to see if any other companies would produce a similar electronic ND system to the Sony cameras. So far only Panavision has produced one, but it looks like Kinefinity is the first company to bring an alternative system to an affordable mainstream camera. Such a system means that you will be able to fix your iris where you want and make fine, smooth adjustments with the ND, with none of the drawbacks of a traditional variable ND filter.

Audio

With all the focus on the attention grabbing headline features it is good to see that audio has not been forgotten. In fact it appears that the company is taking it very seriously. Two independently controlled XLR in sockets are present, along with a separate 3.5mm stereo MIC in.

The MAVO Edge features two balanced XLR in sockets, with ultra quiet preamps.

The MAVO Edge features two balanced XLR in sockets, with ultra quiet preamps. Image Kinefinity.

Kinefinity claims that the the camera is equipped with high quality pre-amps with an ultra-low noise floor. If this is the case in practice, it will greatly reduce the need for off-camera audio recording in a wide variety of circumstances. Both XLR sockets are also capable of providing 48v Phantom Power.

User Interface

User interfaces are the thing that we use every day on our cameras, so it is important that they are clear and easy to use in the field. Presently Blackmagic Design are the world leaders in camera interface design, but the one presented on the MAVO Edge looks very promising, particularly because it utilises physical buttons. This is something that it usually much more preferable to using a touch screen interface, especially in cold or difficult filming conditions.

Kinefinity MAVO Edge user interface.

The interface on the MAVO Edge looks to be very well thought out. Image: Kinefinity.

For a start the buttons are large and well spaced, which should mean that they can easily be operated with gloves on. The display itself, judging from the provided photos, looks very clearly laid out. Kinefinity says that the display area can be enlarged up to 200% to make it easier to read and adjust different parameters.

Recording Media

As you might imagine, recording 8K in ProRes RAW at up to 75 fps is going to be pretty taxing on storage. As a result the company has upgraded its KineMAG system from SATA 3.0 to NVMe M.2. The new KineMAG Nano uses the PCIe 3.0 protocol to handle recordings up to 10Gb/s.

As the name suggests, the KineMAG Nano has a smaller form factor, which means that the camera can feature a dual media slot design. The dual slots allow the Edge to record the same clips simultaneously, or it can record the main codec to one and H.264 proxy files to the other.

The dual slot storage system on the Kinefinity MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity.

The dual slot storage system on the Kinefinity MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity.

Additionally the company is offering KineMAG Nano enclosures so that users can install their own third part NVMe M.2 SSDs if they want to save on costs.

Power

A close inspection of the MAVO Edge shows up a very clever looking new hybrid battery plate system. This features the ability to use both industry standard 14.8v V-mount batteries, but also smaller Sony style BP-U30 types. This would appear to make the camera highly versatile. For instance, for normal shooting you could power it off a large V-mount brick. But if you wanted to load it onto a gimbal, for example, you could use a much smaller BP-U30 to keep the system ultra-light.

The innovative battery interface on the Kinefinity MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity.

The innovative battery interface on the Kinefinity MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity.

However the power flexibility doesn’t end there. It seems like Kinefinity have thrown in everything including the kitchen sink into the options that users will have. The MAVO Edge body includes a D-Tap port, 12v RS and 12v Lens port so that there’s no shortage of options by which to power external accessories such as wireless video transmitters and lens motors.

The MOVCAM KineKIT system for uninterrupted power to the MAVO Edge.

The MOVCAM KineKIT system for uninterrupted power to the MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity.

Additionally the company has teamed up with Movcam to create the KiniKIT system. This features a 15mm baseplate that can house two NP-F550 batteries. Because the MAVO Edge features UPS power contacts on its base, the new Movcam system can be used to ensure an uninterrupted power supply. In short this means that users will be able to hot-swap batteries on the camera body without cutting the power supply. Clever!

The underneath of the MAVO Edge features a UPS interface, which allows battery hot swapping.

The underneath of the MAVO Edge features a UPS interface, which allows battery hot swapping. Image: Kinefinity.

Connectivity

If the features above weren’t enough, the Edge is highly prepared for a very connected future. Gigabit Ethernet RJ45 features along with WIFI5 wireless network capability and a type-C USB socket. The camera can output a monitoring/recording image to devices via a live H64 stream.

One aspect that is incredibly interesting is that the camera is equipped with a three-axis gyroscope, which enables it to record spacial positioning information. For special effects shooting and virtual camera matching this could prove to be a very valuable function indeed. GPS labelling on footage is also featured alongside Bluetooth 5.0 to assist with wireless control and communication with the camera body over short distances.

Kinefinity hasn't left many stones unturned when it comes to connectivity on the MAVO Edge.

Kinefinity hasn’t left many stones unturned when it comes to connectivity on the MAVO Edge. Image: Kinefinity

Summary

It can’t be ignored that the specifications on offer here are incredibly compelling. It is true that in order to get a day-to-day workable rig it will need to be fitted out with a cage and other accessories. However the fact that it includes features such as the e-ND and a highly adaptable power system means that once it has been rigged out it will be a very practical camera to work with.

How important is the 8K feature? For starters it means that the MAVO Edge is ready for the future, but as a side effect it also gives users something else they’ve been wanting, higher frame rate 4K. In full-frame mode the camera will derive the 6K and 4K images by downsampling from 8K. There are real and tangible benefits in doing this. So on paper at least, the camera looks like it may at the very least give other manufacturers cause to raise their eyebrows.

The Kinefinity MAVO Edge will retail for US$11,999 with a shipping date penned in for Sept 2020, and it can be preordered right now.

What do you think of the new MAVO Edge? Will 8K be useful to you? As always, let us know your thoughts in the comments!

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June 2nd, 2020

the name of this camera sucks…..flat out….

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June 2nd, 2020

the name suck…flat out…..

Stephen Franchek
Stephen Franchek
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April 29th, 2020

Hate to say it, because I make my living as a focus puller, but I hope this camera has some halfway decent autofocus. I want it as a run and gunner, would love to be able to slap it on a gimbal or my steadicam and just run around grabbing shots without worrying too much about focus on my smaller or personal projects

 SMP Saint Marks Pictures LLC
SMP Saint Marks Pictures LLC
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April 28th, 2020

Anyone have insights as to whether their implementation of PR Raw runs afoul if Reds patents? If it does, it won’t see the light of day in the US / European market.

Ben
Ben
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April 28th, 2020

Because it’s partially debayured (sp?) I believe it doesn’t infringe on the patent, much the same as how black magic can have a ‘raw’ internal codec and still sell their cameras without any issues.

 Caleb Genheimer
Caleb Genheimer
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April 28th, 2020

Honestly this might be a perfect cine camera. The only thing missing is autofocus, but then again, truly cine-quality AF has only recently become a real thing. It’s not a necessary feature just yet, but give it a year, and it will be a very welcome one. That aside,

Full Frame (true open gate, no 16:9 BS)
Vari-ND
Short FFD locking mount
Dual gain ISO
Legitimate HFR options
8K RAW internally recorded (WUT)
Compact and light weight
Universal record media
Multiple universal power options
Proper built in audio

This is a true beast. It really is. Bravo.

Ben J
Ben J
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April 27th, 2020

I have to say, this is a very beautiful looking camera with loads of useful features all well laid out. I don’t doubt the image is good – for me, this kind of camera would still feel like an experimental purchase, with no real proof of reliability out in the field. Let’s hope we see that proof over time.

Clayton Burkhart
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April 27th, 2020

I think they are in the game with this camera. It’s no longer copying as a company, it’s innovating. The real questions come down to image quality, but from a user/tool point of view, it’s pretty smart.

Dan
Dan
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April 27th, 2020

This camera looks to be a homerun for Kinefinity. I have the Mavo LF and am amazed by the image, it’s scaringly close to the Alexa, really not kidding. All the shortcomings that the camera had seem to have been adressed with this release.
e-ND, ProRes RAW, 8K, HFR, better buttons, wireless video, integrated XLR, V-Mount, BP-U, USB, etc. What’s there not to like?
In-body stabilisation and autofocus, and cheaper price, nothing else comes to mind.

Good Job Kinefinity, good job.

Ian
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April 29th, 2020
Reply to  Dan

“ In-body stabilisation and autofocus, and cheaper price, nothing else comes to mind.”

Are you referring to the three axis gyroscope? Seems like this would only be used for virtual cameras and positioning data. I apologize if it was mentioned elsewhere. This is the only article I’ve read so far, but I didn’t see mention of real-time image stabilization.

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April 27th, 2020

To Kinefinity: Thank you for implementing ProRes RAW as it’s such a joy to work with and is unbelievably easy on the CPU/GPU. PCIe is a welcome feature both in camera to support hi data rate footage plus on the other side making offloading footage as fast as possible with a Thunderbolt 3 interface. BRAW would of course also be welcome but this doesn’t seem likely by the sound of it. 5.7K ProRes RAW from the EVA1 was a breeze to decode so I’ll be looking forward to testing some 8K files when they become available ~September (a downloadable link would be great C5D!)

To C5D: Great to see the manufacturer talking directly to film making technology sites like this.

My biggest concern being release date versus actually shipping the product with a smaller company like this. Z-Cam was to ship their E2-F8 8K camera last October and just recently began shipping from B&H.

ProRes RAW, R3D, BRAW, ZRAW, cDNG, Sony RAW, Phantom CINE, Canon RAW Light, ARRI RAW – I believe we have enough RAW formats at this point.

Dean Butler
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April 27th, 2020

Wow really interesting. Competition is good! Looking forward to seeing some actual footage. ProRes RAW is still not useable on PC correct??

Ryan
Ryan
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April 27th, 2020
Reply to  Dean Butler

You can view Prores RAW on Edius but from my testing, highlight recovery doesn’t work so it’s of no use. Prores RAW currently works in Premiere Pro ‘beta’ but based on my testing with my Nikon Z6/Ninja V footage and type and speed of feedback back from Adobe folks working on getting it going, very slow progress is being made so I wouldn’t be surprised if this thing isn’t released before next year.

Dean Butler
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April 28th, 2020
Reply to  Ryan

Thanks for the info Ryan!

Nick Lam
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April 27th, 2020

What is the data rate of 8K 75fps in Pro Res RAW? And are there selectable RAW compression ratios?

Witalis
Witalis
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April 27th, 2020

Mavo LF is a great camera which I already have but this is amazing. I wouldn’t expect Kinefinity can go so much beyond other. Really

Mihai
Mihai
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April 27th, 2020

A version with 4.6k S35 and all other features for under 10.000 would have been a killer….

Member
April 27th, 2020

Looks good on paper but leaves some big questions: 1: Will the DR actually meet the claims? 8K is a lot of pixels on a FF sensor. They will be smaller than Sony, Canon and Arri are currently favouring. 2: Rolling shutter? That’s a lot of pixels to read very quickly. 3: Bit depth? What will be the bit depth of the raw, if it’s less than 16 bit will it be log? Although ProResRaw is very efficient, 60 fps 8K is one hell of a lot of data to try to store in real time at 16 bit. 4: Colour response. How is it going to look, how good is the sensors colour response?

Nick
Nick
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April 27th, 2020

Hello Alister, a full frame open gate sensor read out is 12ms.
Prores 444 and RAW and log 12 bit.
The dual card slots are NVM3 M.2 so up to 16Gb/s write speeds. You’ll be able to source your own drives and buy the enclosures to fit them :)
The colour is very tuneable, Kinelog is based on the Cineon curve

nick
nick
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April 27th, 2020
Reply to  Nick

Prores 444 and RAW *are log, 12 bit.

Member
April 27th, 2020
Reply to  nick

Thanks for the info. 12ms is very fast for 44MP and 12 bit log is a good compromise. Lets hope it looks as nice in real life as on paper.

Rostislav Alexandrov
Rostislav Alexandrov
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April 28th, 2020
Reply to  nick

Log and Raw are 2 different things

Daniel Rozsnyo
Daniel Rozsnyo
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April 28th, 2020

All the 8K modes are 12-bit linear from the sensor I have identified they are using, so do not expect any magical performance. The DR will be about 11.5-11.8 stops and these come with a tight 1/60 rolling scan (16.6ms in 17:9), at 60fps.

There is also a possibility of a 14-bit linear mode scanned obviously slower – at 1/30 (full DSLR/Phone kind yello effect), which could capture up to 30 fps, and that would result in a DR of a bit above 13 stops – exactly same as the EVA1 has, and similar to FX9 DR, yet I do not think they are going to use that.

The sensor only wins by its resolution (and size), not by speed or DR over a FX9/Venice comparison. Yet the camera as a whole wins by having internal compressed RAW that is practically for “free”, unlike on Sony, or EVA1. The color response could be expected that of other major gear brands, I am not expecting compromise here.

 Daniel Rozsnyo
Daniel Rozsnyo
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April 29th, 2020
Reply to  Simon Wyndham

Simon, I have the same sensor in my hands for some time. It is not listed unless you know what are you looking for – and it is not a new sensor! It might be not the intention of the camera manufacturer to reveal its sensor due to various reasons, and I respect that – to the point where they start to claim performance figures which the sensor/chip can not really provide. PS. I do design cameras, I know this tech. I am not just spreading unsupported info what I might heard or was told.

Simon Wyle
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April 29th, 2020
Reply to  Daniel Rozsnyo

Daniel, I’m not sure how you have identified the sensor when no specifics have been given. Mistakes like this have been made in response to camera announcements before, with sensors of ‘similar’ specs being found and presumed to be in a certain camera, which then turns out to be false.

All I’m going on is information that is coming my way (and obviously I’m not at liberty to say where from), but I am open to all possibilities. However I doubt very much that Kinefinity would be making claim to these sorts of specs if they weren’t at all possible or tested in prototypes. With a Sept release scheduled they will have a pretty good idea of the expected performance by now. We will have to wait for the final camera to see who is correct.

Flo Lindenberg
Flo Lindenberg
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April 27th, 2020

Oversampling, Pixel-binning and line skipping are three different ways to lower Resolution! Please clarify!

WUBBSY?
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April 27th, 2020

So much Money. But such a great camera.

 SMP Saint Marks Pictures LLC
SMP Saint Marks Pictures LLC
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April 27th, 2020

I like the competition and many of the features but it has two major drawbacks. The first is an 8k chip. This will make shooting full frame raw a data pig. 6k would’ve been ideal. Half the data but more than enough room for re scale and stabilizing. Also, larger photo sites would help with noise. The other deal breaker is no internal ND. There’s no excuse, even at 12k price.

Brent
Brent
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April 28th, 2020

SMP did you even read the article?

 SMP Saint Marks Pictures LLC
SMP Saint Marks Pictures LLC
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April 28th, 2020
Reply to  Brent

You’re right. Missed the ND part. Apologies.

Rostislav Alexandrov
Rostislav Alexandrov
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April 28th, 2020

I’m not sure you’re familiar with ProresRaw. It’s a fairly compressed version of RAW. A lot lighter than any RAM codec. Therefore data won’t be as huge as you would think.

David C. Weldon Jr.
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April 27th, 2020

Always been interested to see where they have gotten as a company. Had my hands on the 4k Terra a few year… https://t.co/OjPy7yNt1c

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