RED Komodo – Official Waitlist for Production Cameras is Open

13 days ago
RED Komodo - Official Waitlist for Production Cameras is Open

The official waitlist for RED Komodo production cameras is open. According to Jarred Land, the first cameras should start rolling out by the end of October. The $1000 discount for RED HYDROGEN owners, reducing the camera’s price from around $6,000 to around $5,000, can be applied via the phone’s IMEI code within the first 60 days of launch.

The Komodo is RED’s latest Super35 6K cinema camera with a compact body. After many months of underground information and pre-release model beta-testing, RED is finally going into full production. What does that exactly mean?

RED Komodo Stormtrooper Model. Source: RED

RED Komodo Waiting List Open

Recently, RED President Jarred Land published information about the official waiting list for production cameras now being open. The word Komodo also appeared on the official RED website for the first time. There is now a Komodo landing page for entering an e-mail address and getting on the waiting list for the black production model of the camera.

According to Jarred land, the first black production cameras should start rolling out by the end of October. He did not forget to thank all the beta owners for their input after testing the colored pre-production and white stormtrooper cameras.

Canon RF Speed Booster on Komodo?

When Canon launched the EOS C70 cinema camera roughly two weeks ago, they also presented the EF-EOS R 0.71x speed booster. It will reduce the C70’s crop factor to the one of a full-frame camera while also adding roughly one stop of exposure.

According to Canon, the speed booster is designed specifically for the EOS C70 and it has special four-screw mounting brackets to provide the camera with a solid mount. It is yet to be seen if that adapter will also work with the RED Komodo.

Canon EF-EOS R 0.71x Mount Adapter. Source: Canon

There is a new thread on REDuser specifically for the speculations on whether this could work or not. Some users are concerned about the adapter not being able to fit due to Komodo’s chin interfering with the adapter’s non-removable foot. It would indeed be nice to get the full-frame look with the EF lenses with the Komodo. What do you think?

RED HYDROGEN Discount

The initial plan to reward early adopters of the RED HYDROGEN smartphone still remains. Jarred published more information about the discount. He said that HYDROGEN owners will receive $1000 off the purchase price (paid by RED HYDROGEN) of a Komodo camera when purchased within 60 days after its launch. In order to receive the discount customers will need to provide the IMEI number from their phone at checkout. Instructions on how to locate the IMEI can be found here.

RED Hydrogen One – Backside. Photo credit: Phil Holland

As Jarred previously stated, the final price for the RED Komodo camera body should be around $6,000. That makes the final price for those who qualify for the RED HYDROGEN discount around $5,000.

What do you think about the RED Komodo so far? Do you plan on purchasing the camera? Let us know in the comment section underneath the article.

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Walter Vargas
Walter Vargas
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10 days ago

Word is that Komodo is a make-or-break product for Red. They’ve laid off a ton of people.

It’s too bad. Jim Jannard did what he set out to do: He changed cinema. At a time when Sony was peddling glorified video cameras for $100K (without a recorder), he created a viable 4K camera that was usable for under $30K.

Unfortunately Red was never able to deliver 3K for $3K, or whatever Scarlet was supposed to be. BlackMagic did. And Red suffered from its unprofessional marketing and Web presence (or lack thereof). When a company’s main conduit for communications is an amateur-hour Web site that it doesn’t even own… would-be customers should be concerned.

Alex L
Alex L
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12 days ago

Oh man they officially released it already.

Hey CineD

Can you tell us about the software and if you’ve tested the beta/alpha yet?

Robert M
Robert M
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12 days ago

There is already a Metabones EF to RF focal reducing adapter.
The Canon one is cheaper but there is not much of an advantage for a non-Canon camera

AJR
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12 days ago
Reply to  Robert M

I can tell you the foot on the metabones interferes with the Komodo. I already returned the metabones but preordered one of these Canon speedboosters. Someone will make one that will fit in fact I think kippertie already has? Anyway, metabones might do a special one like they did for the Blackmagic pocket.

BOUNCE
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13 days ago

I’m thinking the Canon C70 is going to steal a lot of customers away from Red. Granted, those that are planning to use Komodo for its stated purpose of “crash cam “ will still be onboard. But for most smaller operators the Canon will prove the better option with better compatibility with all native lenses, class leading AF, built in mini XLRs and ND filter. Even details like a flip screen and near instant startup time… compared to around 30 seconds for Komodo will be compelling reasons to go Canon. Add it the Herculean battery life and it’s the final nail in the coffin for this mainstream Red offering.

Andreas Oberg
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13 days ago
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There are several benefits with Komodo though.
– Red raw is fantastic. We have used it for 6 years and it has always been a pleasure to work with. You can do so much with the image quality when the video is raw. C70 is quite heavily compressed and it will create problems when noise reducing, sharpening and for general color changes. With raw video you can really paint the results, if often do not need things to be lit that well, but can add it afterwards.
– Higher resolution will create a sharper image, be easier to stabilize and also make it possible to crop into and reframe. We use the crop a lot in our videos since we shot in 8k.
– Red normally have other features that many others do not like pre-record which we use all the time. Not sure if the C70 supports this.

Of course I agree the startup time and the extended battery time are all great but I would not say that the Komodo is only good as a crash camera. There are several times where I would pick the Komodo but not a C70. Examples are for wildlife filming as a small portable camera with a gimbal, or just an extra angle. The C70 would not have good enough image quality for this. For a bit higher budget music videos or commercials I would not pick the C70 either due to limitations with color grading. For documentaries it may be the better camera though or if there is not enough light.

Cheers

Walter Vargas
Walter Vargas
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10 days ago
Reply to  Andreas Oberg

Word is that the Canon is going to support ProRes Raw, with HDMI raw output to an Atomos Ninja.

If not, it’s a joke. Its internal codec and frame rates suck.

AJR
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12 days ago
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This may well be true on the prosumer side. But for people who this camera was made for mainly purchasing for the R3D codec. I would say the global shutter and 15 stops of DR is also cool. Canon didn’t give the C70 any professional codecs, mini xlr
and HDMI, no sdi. Basically it is probably the camera about 10-15% of people who buy the Komodo should probably buy. But pros need the codec, the sdi and there are more accessories coming that will add timecode, genlock, etc. Basically every camera is amazing now. Canon is doing amazing stuff, don’t understand why they won’t give more of their cameras pro
Codecs. Oh well. I love my stormtrooper and the phase detect
Autofocus while still in beta is surprisingly good!

BOUNCE
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12 days ago
Reply to  AJR

I think you’ll find Komodo is not close to 15 stops of DR. But if you are going to simply take manufacturers at their word, then the Canon is 16 plus stops:-). In reality you’ll find Komodo closer to 12~, while the Canon will deliver about 13.1 stops. I’ll agree the R3D is great to work with, but for rapid turn around the Canon will have an edge. And while Red has made big improvements with phase detect AF, Jarred himself mentioned that he does not expect it to come close to Canon levels.
Komodo has the potential to be very interesting, but the learning curve is higher. I think a lot of people will buy Komodo without realizing this.

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Walter Vargas
Walter Vargas
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10 days ago
Reply to  AJR

Why on earth would anyone buy the C70, when you can buy an A7S III and a Ninja for less money?

adam baker
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Not True. Canon does not have Raw. Only xf avc I 10bit. Red is true 16bit raw! Its like having a darkroom room. Ppl shooting Red use real cine lenses that are MF. Not still glass.
Red komodo is going to be a big seller based on IQ alone. Sure c70 will do good, but there 2x different tools.

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